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		<title>Podcast Episode #50 &#8211; Why Do Consumers Trust Micro Influencers? &#124; Versell Motley &#8211; VERSEatyle</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Versell Motley, the visionary founder of VERSEatyle, as our esteemed guest. Meet Versell Motley: The Mind Behind VERSEatyle Versell Motley, the innovative mind [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://afluencer.com/podcast-episode-50-why-do-consumers-trust-micro-influencers-versell-motley-verseatyle/">Podcast Episode #50 &#8211; Why Do Consumers Trust Micro Influencers? | Versell Motley &#8211; VERSEatyle</a> appeared first on <a href="https://afluencer.com">AFLUENCER</a>.</p>
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									<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Versell Motley, the visionary founder of VERSEatyle, as our esteemed guest.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Versell Motley, the innovative mind driving VERSEatyle, takes center stage in the Afluencer podcast series. With a wealth of experience in the world of influencer marketing, Versell shares captivating insights, challenges, and triumphs that have shaped his brand&#8217;s journey.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Join us in exploring the enchanting world of VERSEatyle through the eyes of Versell Motley himself. We&#8217;ve embedded the riveting YouTube podcast video below, offering an exclusive glimpse into the transformative power of influencer marketing.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Versell Motley. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled VERSEatyle&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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					<h3 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">In Conversation with Versell Motley, Founder of VERSEatyle:</h3>				</div>
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					<h4 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">Versell:</h4>				</div>
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									<p>I&#8217;ve a lot of knowledge to share with in this interview and with you started. There&#8217;s a big difference between UGC user generated content versus influencer partnerships. UGC people want it exactly the way they want it versus the influencer where we&#8217;re just allowed to be ourselves. Use our time for one minute. That&#8217;s up. Sometimes Instagram says we are looking for other people to engage with their posts in this time frame of an hour.</p><p>No one did it, so we&#8217;re not going to boost your post purposely versus 50 people. Maybe 8:00 in the morning will engage with that post. And I&#8217;m like, you know what? During this time, everyone&#8217;s at work. We haven&#8217;t had that much engagement and all will reward you. And social media does reward you on how much.</p>								</div>
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					<h4 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">Brett:</h4>				</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our eight Forcer podcast. We have a return guest and a special treat for our brands, especially those of you who are new to influencer marketing. You&#8217;ve tried Google AdWords and it&#8217;s too expensive or Google&#8217;s kind of gone crazy in recent recent months here with their new algorithms. Facebook ads are expensive, so we turn to influencers and especially micro-influencers.</p><p>But while we&#8217;re new to it, we&#8217;re not sure where to start. So we&#8217;ve got a real treat. We&#8217;ve got a micro influencer, really a top line micro influencer. I mean, you know, basic influencer creator does it all kind of a renaissance man wears many hats and we bring in versatile back to the podcast and we have a lot of stuff to talk about in terms of followers engaging what&#8217;s going on, what he&#8217;s seeing working in social media, what&#8217;s working for the collabs that he&#8217;s doing with brands.</p><p>We&#8217;ve got a lot to cover. Versatile. Welcome. Thanks for reaching out. They should know we&#8217;re back on the podcast.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I was like, Oh great. Hey, how well to affluence there. Thank you for going me to this point. I have a lot of knowledge to share with this, with not a lot of knowledge to share with in this interview and get started.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I can&#8217;t wait. I was looking at your profile, influencer profile where you might be the goat at this point with the number of collabs and number of brands that you&#8217;ve worked with and I mentioned. I mean, I see God when I&#8217;m talking, I&#8217;m doing my calls with our newer brands and walking through and, and you&#8217;re already working with them and helping them kind of along that process.</p><p>So it would be great to hear just what you&#8217;re seeing today in terms of the inner workings of social media. What is you are early on the scene with the videos you saw that come in ahead of time, the reels, and that&#8217;s where Facebook and Instagram in particular, right? They put a lot of their algorithm effort, just like, hey, we&#8217;re going to throw out the rails so we can catch up with TikTok, that type of thing.</p><p>What do you see today? What are the new trends? What is working for you in terms of the collabs that you&#8217;re working on with brands? Just what&#8217;s new and versatile view in the trenches there where you are?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, right. There&#8217;s a lot to touch on so I can talk very fast. I would try to start very slow pace because there&#8217;s so much I want to bring up. I have a whole list of things right here, so I try to start one by one. I&#8217;m one of the biggest things I noticed over time is there&#8217;s a big difference between I&#8217;ll start with UGC user generated content versus influencer partnerships.</p><p>So at this I noticed with the UGC people, which I was also talking about leading up into the I, if you do thing, if I&#8217;ll put it like this then versus brand partnerships, if you just had an if those deals had a, an opportunity to hire an assistant instead of a regular person, they would because they all they want is just pretty much a scripted thing of everything that they the man within that video you want it exactly the way they want it.</p><p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what your influencers really and pretty much they can keep doing a bunch of revision as much as they want versus the influencer where we&#8217;re just allowed to be ourselves, use our time correctly. And that&#8217;s the big thing. I want to bring up in this conversation is time. How creative is? Pretty much you&#8217;re kind of at the crack of the whip to be creative when you&#8217;re like not enough time.</p><p>That&#8217;s really given. And I mean, okay, let me read this carefully. When it comes to being artistic, sometimes it does take a while to get that recreation made. And with artists from Leonardo da Vinci and all the other people that came up, they took not their time, but they knew that they use their time wisely. So go to the brands.</p><p>Some of them I work with, Some of them don&#8217;t understand the timing or the timing or the time, things that is needed to utilize to create these things alone. Does the Disney influencers that is just the UGC product where you are right now? You&#8217;re my role by this. I said this script. It should be easy. Should we have this done in 2 hours?</p><p>Oh, times. This stuff takes 6 hours. They really like even get because even the attitude they have, the right person is still like smile and everything. Sometimes it does take longer than that. The average person is like even people that I know personally, some of them don&#8217;t even have the courage to even show their face on the camera for 2 seconds.</p><p>So it really does take a lot of confidence and skill to know what you&#8217;re doing, how you&#8217;re doing it. And I guess I&#8217;m just getting all this to say, Yeah, a lot of it does take time. So on both ends too, even for the brands. But the qualities I noticed in a lot of other influencers that like I&#8217;ve added out their brands and they haven&#8217;t really delivered their work and the brands are like asking, they already paid them right though, like other influencers that make me look bad or not me with that, but I&#8217;m like, you have a both presets processing that I&#8217;m going to do the same thing.</p><p>And I&#8217;m like, No, I get my work done fast. You see my track record on at least trying to get it done as fast as possible, or at least be communicated or but yeah, yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You have the only that I&#8217;ve seen hundred percent response time within 24 hours.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I noticed that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>The response every, every single message, which I know are hundreds or maybe even thousands of messages within 24 hours, I would just like an ad up or yeah, I even tried it. That&#8217;s the most responsive. That&#8217;s the goal in terms of response in that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So that&#8217;s something I want to line.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Up a sec. Versatile, just so I can break it down for our brand to kind of come in because I think it&#8217;s good that you&#8217;re doing this distinction because a lot of people had this term, it was being used synonymously that you had UGC or user generated content and it was being used anonymously with, Hey, I want to work with an influencer and that&#8217;s how I&#8217;m going to get the UDC because I&#8217;m going to say, Hey, I want versatile using my product, and then you&#8217;re going to post something.</p><p>And usually in UGC they&#8217;re looking for, right? They want access to the video so they can, they can repurpose it and that type of thing. And I that&#8217;s interesting to hear that the requirements are that specific because it&#8217;s always been my inclination. What influencers I&#8217;ve worked with and we&#8217;ve worked with you also is that you&#8217;re the creator. Yes, I have a I have a website, I have an app, and you do the rest, right?</p><p>So you&#8217;re.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You&#8217;re glad you do it. Use.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I know my audience. I know what works. I know what&#8217;s best for my room for when I&#8217;m in control of that. So same for UDC people. There&#8217;s been a lot of talk about quite a few brands that gave me not attitude but misunderstanding though like what&#8217;s expected. I&#8217;m like, Oh, you should have said that in the beginning that were out there.</p><p>All of your your guideline, because some people will get low answers like, Hey, do it like this, like this, but do it your way. I&#8217;ll do it my way. But then for some people, they don&#8217;t want it my way. They want it specifically done like UDC. So I feel like that&#8217;s another cool specific thing to bring them nowadays with influencers when it comes to like UDC.</p><p>And I feel like that falls under the affiliate role, like your you&#8217;re here to do this and that and that&#8217;s it. Like they&#8217;ll do anything extra will take care of the rest of the editing. We have more back end that we know about. You don&#8217;t know about Just one thing I want to bring up.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah that&#8217;s a great to say to so what is what are you seeing in terms of the differences in the engagement on a post that you do and you put on your creator hat and you take start to finish verses and I don&#8217;t know if you are posting UGC stuff on your own feed, but if you are, what is the difference in engagement between your typical post or even I know your rails are very popular versus your UGC content.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I like this comment as it goes under the I object I wanted to talk about soon, but people nowadays, as much as they&#8217;re on their own spelling, they&#8217;re not stupid. They know whether it&#8217;s an ad or not. They know whether they&#8217;re actually going to like that. They know whether you&#8217;re trying to sell them something. So what do you do?</p><p>See, there&#8217;s a lot of grits that they follow and all these people are using. I get these strips. So the more robotic, the more non organic, the more are, the less people are actually going to actually tune in with you. Like, oh, it&#8217;s just doing a job rather than entertaining me. And on social media, you&#8217;re either entertaining somebody or someone needs help or this trauma which falls under entertainment, but you get you get what I&#8217;m getting at.</p><p>There&#8217;s only a few things that we actually follow people for as you&#8217;re falling out, of course, and you&#8217;re just doing a regular ad like a commercial, that&#8217;s fine, because some people I&#8217;m not in sales for people because I&#8217;m just doing that type of style. But I mean, if you&#8217;re trying to get viral or not get viral, but get your product out there, out there with a lot of beginning brands and the new because they just see the results on Google, they say, Oh, if I give this product and this money to that person, it&#8217;ll grow.</p><p>And and they&#8217;ll be all saying, No, no, no, no, no, no. Like we have to do our job. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re influencers, because we got some type of viral point where people wanted to pay attention to what we had in our possession. But the way we did it, not how someone told us to do it. So hopefully they&#8217;re good, but it&#8217;s just preferred that the creator actually does what they&#8217;re good at creating.</p><p>But there is it&#8217;s always recommended that you can give them guidelines like, well, as a brand, can you least kind of implement this and see your stuff? That&#8217;s always good. But there&#8217;s just certain UGC brand. This is like we want this and that and that&#8217;s like you&#8217;re going to get left with lot and don&#8217;t be surprised, like if you&#8217;re real is only getting like 1000 views versus the other view that I did previously.</p><p>And they&#8217;re like, Well, okay, it&#8217;s like, Oh, how come this is the like, Well, because it&#8217;s more entertaining to people versus me just doing, Hey, I&#8217;m another face. Like Matt&#8217;s interest is blurred right here. I&#8217;m just another face. He&#8217;s a product buy you know, I&#8217;ll just buy like that. Not even back in the days when we just had commercials like that.</p><p>Just a repetition. If you teach me, do that over and over what I might be, start thinking about it. That&#8217;s how it works, especially with multiple ads and stuff. But just one ad, one, one and like one here I&#8217;ll be all That&#8217;s not going to usually work. You&#8217;ll get a few sales, but not as much as you think.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, great point on the touch points also, because that was I mean, when I started learning marketing a billion years ago, that was the thing, right? It was it was said seven touch points, E 13 touch points. You got to have them direct mail, right. Like you said. Right. So you got to hit them from different angles. Everyone today online is we want then what&#8217;s your cost per conversion?</p><p>Sarah&#8217;s looking at it in terms of like a one hit. And the thing is, and I know this from our AdWords campaigns, I&#8217;ve turned most of our AdWords stuff off except for our own brand. So we want to defend influencer and other people bid on us. So we defend it there. But in terms of just keywords, you&#8217;re always spending like $3 to make one.</p><p>It doesn&#8217;t, it doesn&#8217;t really work anymore. You can get a little bit of traction that way. Like that is interesting. Now we made with the scripted videos because if that now you&#8217;re just all those economics over and you&#8217;re saying, well, we might get a few sales, it might break even, but we&#8217;re not getting that asymmetric return we&#8217;re looking for.</p><p>We&#8217;re looking for to spend a dollar and make ten. Or if you do a reel and we invest with you, we want to make a multiple that. We want that thing where we&#8217;re kind of spreading out. It will work. And of course, with many different micro-influencers. So what we&#8217;re doing is we&#8217;re putting educated bets on the table and then we want to we want some viral type returns, right?</p><p>That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re doing this for AdWords, which is a, you know, dead zone and Facebook, which is fine. But is it going to be too expensive from what these ads are are going to cost? So what&#8217;s what do you think about followers? Now let&#8217;s get into maybe that follower and then engagement part rice as we&#8217;re already talking about.</p><p>Yeah, that&#8217;s I know something I think people are starting to learn. Right. Okay. So we got the what is it cost to work with someone with 50,000 followers? I said, well, look, let&#8217;s first figure out whether we want to work that person. So take us through that first style, the engagement versus the follower account and where, how, how those.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Okay, So this is a very interesting one. So because I&#8217;ve had a few brands, especially for look once a year, which I don&#8217;t, I understand why it&#8217;s there and everything, but I just then why it&#8217;s not fully accurate. So for example, some people will say, if you like, okay, the computer data will say you only have a certain amount of percentage of engagement and they&#8217;ll be like, okay, no, I understand.</p><p>And you please show me one of the things that you see that is working and I&#8217;ll gladly show the difference of what&#8217;s going on and show me somebody. Sometimes they won&#8217;t even respond. But the few people that try to say like, okay, I&#8217;m curious and they show me somebody, sometimes they don&#8217;t. They see accounts, but they don&#8217;t understand the inner workings of social media.</p><p>And then there&#8217;s so many outlets to get certain type of comments like just a heart comment, and you get the same heart comment from ten other people and you click on the account and it&#8217;s not even anyone that&#8217;s trying to do anything. No job is just an account. One takes. You&#8217;re like, They don&#8217;t know these services are out there.</p><p>Well, someone they get it. Oh, they have the percentage, let&#8217;s say. Like if they look on the site that has like the engagement chart that says this percentage versus this percentage of person, for example, someone with 300 followers. Right. Go on the site and they have 300 followers and 200 of them always pull through. And that that mean on the percentage part, they&#8217;re going to go look like 80%.</p><p>90% says were like a lot of them. Are there. But if you compare that to someone who says maybe I have 30,000 followers and a thousand of them through maybe not the other 10% and percent, but the thousand people through that same calculation is going to give that person a very low percentage. But the engagement part and you look at the content, there&#8217;s people that actually talk on this one versus this one.</p><p>And the you know, I mean, there&#8217;s like a number it throws everything up in my in my on my opinion from what I&#8217;ve seen, because then I&#8217;ve been looking for other people and there&#8217;s not some good don&#8217;t get me wrong, there&#8217;s been good examples, but they don&#8217;t really fulfill what I&#8217;m trying to see. And that&#8217;s another issue that one of the biggest subject I wanted to get a part about this is the inner workings of social media.</p><p>Looks like that&#8217;s not even the influencer of the brand or the video. Sometimes social media does mess up like, say, the post that like thinks a lot. It&#8217;s not even the video with that. It&#8217;s not even anything they get. Sometimes Instagram says, Oh, we are looking for 100 people. So at least like this is the kind of thing that will not literally, but well, we&#8217;re looking for this much.</p><p>People engage with their posts in this time frame of an hour. No one did it, but we&#8217;re not going to boost your post purposely versus sometimes 50 people. Maybe 8:00 in the morning will engage with that post and Instagram like, you know, during this time, everyone&#8217;s at work. We haven&#8217;t had a much engagement on the whole will reward you and social media doesn&#8217;t reward you on how much other people post you, they reward you.</p><p>How much time do you watch a video for? They&#8217;re looking for bots do not give engagements you under looking for real people to get engagement and they know that differently. Instagram is bigger than here. They&#8217;ve all been here for years, so they know people. They know this like the back of our hand. Believe it or not, down. They&#8217;re not all the way.</p><p>But yes, I just want to point that out because I&#8217;ve seen other I&#8217;m in other influencer groups that they talk about like they I have a hundred K followers, but I&#8217;m only getting 1%. And I&#8217;m like, What? Me? I have like, why? For me, I&#8217;m like, I have more than that. But because we have different ways that we market, like I do it constantly or they do it, but they&#8217;re on a different well, this is different way.</p><p>So it&#8217;s like things I want to look into. Sometimes I just came to the conclusion, sometimes you just s sometimes you have to post more than one emotion. You got to be the first or the second or third, but the fifth one that might be the one that like. And there you go. That was the thing you were trying to achieve the whole time.</p><p>But I guess goes back to you&#8217;re not always going to get that because not even getting one, but it&#8217;s just the app itself.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I gotcha. So the case for doing maybe multiple campaigns or a video, what multiple shot that it.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Especially if you&#8217;re in a specific niche the same post those five times as like okay these same people keep liking these type of posts what if we took the same person. Watch the same stuff. This person that likes the same stuff and then we&#8217;ll keep sending that. I mean, that&#8217;s how the algorithm works rather than, oh, everyone keeping this, we won&#8217;t show it to nobody.</p><p>It&#8217;ll just be that like, Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I gotcha. So where they use like Instagram as example, where specifically is the outlet that would cause something to go viral? Is it the search that&#8217;s kind of showing you that new stuff where I&#8217;ve noticed? I&#8217;ll see videos that are all but that&#8217;s, you know, it&#8217;s being shown there. So yeah, where does this stuff show up or just showing up in someone&#8217;s feed and they may not necessarily even follow is that.</p><p>That&#8217;s where I find it interesting. Like if you post something to say, I don&#8217;t follow you, I do. But let&#8217;s say I didn&#8217;t. And I saw one of the videos because Instagram, they you know, he&#8217;s supposed to get his post about Bret Hart. You got to you&#8217;re gonna have to see that right But yeah where where where does that go?</p><p>Is that go into my feed or is that going in the search engines. I go on Bolt.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I sometimes I don&#8217;t know how often you use like even 606 upwards by now on Instagram. Sometimes I&#8217;ll scroll and it&#8217;ll be sponsored at the top, but it&#8217;ll be something that&#8217;s interesting in like that would be like and that&#8217;s how pretty much what we&#8217;re trying to do or not where. But the brands and influencers you&#8217;re trying to get the new users to be like, Oh, I didn&#8217;t know.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know this person, but I like this thing. When we follow you that was sponsored AD the algorithm algorithm will be like suggested or you, right? Okay.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I have noticed that. Yeah. So yeah, right. But it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s in the main. Yeah. Talking to Instagram, it&#8217;s in the main. I think Tik tok just shows them. Right. But Instagram I saw so you guessed it for you and their.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Families, they tried, they&#8217;re doing that. But that&#8217;s was like the king of this scrolling left and right, the random stuff like they&#8217;re number one. But Instagram does it too. But it&#8217;s not as it&#8217;s more I feel like they&#8217;re more algorithm based versus tick tock tick to you can kind of like go outside of your algorithm since I&#8217;m okay.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Okay. Do you often post to both platforms of you do a video or you post net to Instagram and TikTok making the tweets and then put it on both.</p>								</div>
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									<p>If it&#8217;s requested. Like usually I that&#8217;s, that&#8217;s not me though I need to branch out all this stuff about they talked about the and I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going on with that I know like energy or like you could do or I don&#8217;t know like I should just really focus over here on YouTube and I need to get on YouTube, but that&#8217;s one big one.</p><p>But yeah, and YouTube and Instagram stuff. I don&#8217;t know if I should put my full focus, but I mean, so far the good with what I&#8217;ve been doing, I&#8217;ve grown so much since when I started. I never knew I get to this point and still writing with more like as far as like my naturally like okay and like a like my biggest want, but, but like even knowing all these other brands, knowing how business work, even talking with you, being often it actually be social.</p><p>I when I was young, I can do this like now look I mean like down the Yeah but.</p>								</div>
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									<p>But yeah no for sure yeah yeah yeah that&#8217;s awesome. And also see you know just get your you get their business going. That&#8217;s been great questions you have.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I want to make sure if there&#8217;s any way I can help while I have all the game in the world you have and you can ask me. Yeah, I got you.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh yeah. Appreciate it. Let&#8217;s talk. And you brought this up. Let&#8217;s talk about the celebrity versus micro influencer thing, because this is, I think historically something that in the early days gave influencer marketing a bad name because all influencers were basically just slap AMA or go back almost ten years now, right? When a celebrity was quote unquote an influencer, and then people would pay a lot of money to have a celebrity do a paper post and then lo and behold, it wouldn&#8217;t really sell.</p><p>Or that kind of no chance, right, to deliver a return on your investment when you&#8217;re paying someone even today. Right. If you&#8217;re paying a celebrity $1,000,000 a post, that&#8217;s me. Very hard to get a return there. And a lot of it is because of the relevancy. Right. So maybe you follow. So I guess you just follow them and they&#8217;ve got a million fad, but they&#8217;re not necessarily connected with them.</p><p>And that&#8217;s something that we try to educate our brands, like, Hey, the micro influencers are just fast value today and people like yourselves, like you&#8217;ve got awesome scale also. So not only do you have this organic following base that you&#8217;ve cultivated over the years and ground, but these you&#8217;ve got serious reach also. So that&#8217;s kind of I saw the parties that are like this is this is our I just micro-influencers all day long and just find people or your specific niche.</p><p>So in your experience, what&#8217;s what is that difference between the the celebrity and the micro.</p>								</div>
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									<p>The the artist? That&#8217;s what&#8217;s like the cool part. You would think a celebrity and don&#8217;t get me wrong, a lot of them do with the on the go back with all the inner workings of social media where you would think that eight would be equal seen. But in this scenario it&#8217;s like oh like for example on Snoop Dogg most recently what the smoke was, but it didn&#8217;t really get any.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Minus it might not have been his fault, might have been just a combination partially, maybe that might have made people mad like, oh, this is, this is just my point earlier. This is just another ad. Never mind. You didn&#8217;t really give me what the experience and you&#8217;re not smoking. I&#8217;m a smoker. Everyone loves them through smoking. So that&#8217;s like, yes, the brand and everything.</p><p>So it&#8217;s like you expect him just because he has numbers a following. You would expect maybe people didn&#8217;t even like the post because they felt like, Oh man, I&#8217;m not going to like this because I don&#8217;t like that he did that. There&#8217;s low engagement, more engaged, but you don&#8217;t expect that it&#8217;s Snoop Dogg. Yeah. Million versus the micro influencer who posted this to showed like some type of love for this and like they actually utilize this in their daily life and give them a detailed love for it and people like that, like they have these like how I do.</p><p>I use that as a sponsored ad. The people who actually like the news and then I go to them. Now you actually have people that at least might get it and sales versus no sales just because somebody has a large following. No concept. No.</p>								</div>
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									<p>It&#8217;s a really interesting example. I&#8217;ve got the solar stove in my backyard and when the campaign came out, I thought she&#8217;s that&#8217;s genius. Like they&#8217;re talking to me. But I.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Just listen.</p>								</div>
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									<p>To Snoop Dogg in the car. I got the solar stove in the backyard. I&#8217;m like, this is.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes, that is correct.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s true. I already had it. I already had it. Yeah. And then I got it because I think there&#8217;s a recommendation. So you&#8217;re probably versatile, I guess is because you always want and I&#8217;d say this to like if someone&#8217;s got a pet brand, right, I&#8217;m like, you want you got a dog product, you want someone with dog their dog all over their Instagram because it&#8217;s like dog, dog, dog.</p><p>And you&#8217;re selling this dog, right? Is the same. Maybe the solo stuff, right? You mean you don&#8217;t want Snoop? You want the person who&#8217;s doing the backyard stuff and you&#8217;re it&#8217;s aligned right with with Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Or even goes back to like the inner workings of social media if you know how the one knows how to go to the meter you don&#8217;t just do the boost post on Instagram one that knows how to go to the metadata on Facebook. Go to that. Exactly. Use those lines to you that towards Instagram and those ones, if you know somebody even knows how to market correctly, they&#8217;ll even after fully being involved in a niche like for me, I have helped multiple companies like, like some of them are business based.</p><p>I&#8217;m doing a couple two giveaways and one of them is insurance or not the giveaways, but just a post. But it&#8217;s just I angle all the ads boards and shred that business versus the one who does business. But they also have other people like pets, other people who like to other people that are following them, looking at it, not relating.</p><p>Well, also depends. It goes back to the inner workings of social media. Make sure they have a niche like that that&#8217;s very important to you and make sure they got a year that postwar with the right people versus like anybody out there who might not care. I&#8217;m right. Right.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. It&#8217;s like just.</p>								</div>
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									<p>They both go on it.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah right. Any Marion right you want is all specificity. You want to be as specific as you can that I mean, that&#8217;s why AdWords works, because you&#8217;ve got someone looking for a keyword and you bid on a keyword problem Is it just got so expensive because everyone does it, so there&#8217;s no value there where today the value is you&#8217;ve got this unlimited type of content being created out there with influencers and all that reach.</p><p>And the key is like, find the lane, right? With the micros that you need be partnering with. What does that need to ask? Yeah, I got to ask you what&#8217;s in our brands and I&#8217;ll get you out of here. By the way, I could talk to you all day on this one, but we&#8217;ll get you out of here on this one.</p><p>What should our brand new to influencer marketing experience To marketing, but nude influencer stuff, what&#8217;s kind of like the top three or five things that they need to keep in mind think about as they&#8217;re getting into that? And let&#8217;s just frame it micro influencer world, because that&#8217;s where that&#8217;s where they should be getting started with micro influencer marketing.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So I repeat, are you talking So I will, yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>If you&#8217;re you do a great job of this like advising brands who are who are new to the space right, Right, right. Yeah. So you&#8217;re talking to brands. Yeah. Brands who are and maybe you&#8217;re working with them or maybe you&#8217;re just let&#8217;s think of a you&#8217;re like the consultant over their shoulder and you&#8217;re helping them, right? Here&#8217;s the micro ideas that you&#8217;re going to work with.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Say, I got to what?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well, what do they need to do? What&#8217;s important in your experience?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, my. I need a customer. Like I&#8217;d be another any of them. The other subject. You&#8217;ll know someone know You&#8217;ll know someone knows what you&#8217;re talking about. By now, the amount of data they give you and the amount of communication they give you, rather than maybe like, not really giving you much information on what&#8217;s going on, they&#8217;ll provide things that before you even mention it, like I like to say, or I like to provide an invoice before I get paid to do anything.</p><p>So they know like, okay, if you were just trying this down here, get old Romney, you wouldn&#8217;t have done anything. You just got my money. You ran off with that. You already put in some type of work to show that you care. Like you already gave me the invoice and I always ask for their email. I always ask for their logo.</p><p>I always ask for their company Instagram. You know, also, okay, I only look at it for myself. So all the brands looking at me, it looks like, okay, he&#8217;s already at you. You you&#8217;re caring about the brand rather than just asking my question. You&#8217;re like asking me about me. You&#8217;re having interest versus just giving me a call like I have a fancy mirror on and it&#8217;s will answer, Oh, guys.</p><p>Oh, hey. Oh, yeah, I like it more than that. Like, oh, they&#8217;re not going to be. I don&#8217;t wanna hurt people if I&#8217;m a lot of people do, but those are the ones it might work. I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t know that nature. But by form of knowing that influencers get the amount of amount that they show that they care about your brand, first of all.</p><p>And they&#8217;re professional.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, Yeah, that&#8217;s great to get back to what you said earlier, you want the creativity, you&#8217;re taking time, you&#8217;re getting your head around this thing. And that doesn&#8217;t just come by looking at the website, product review, the products being shipped to you, you still got to think about how you&#8217;re organically going to incorporate into your everyday life, right?</p><p>So that you can legitimately say, Hey, this is this is how I&#8217;m using the solar stove in the backyard, right? And instead of just Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>And then also I want to point out on the flip side, Frank Louis, you know, you&#8217;re working with the good brand is Mike is being responsive. Everyone&#8217;s got to know when you&#8217;re like too fast sometimes and that&#8217;s thing you and I had to learn to open on that a little bit and I didn&#8217;t get over like last two years.</p><p>The first like you doing it was like, you know, I&#8217;m like that. But I&#8217;m like, Well, not everyone&#8217;s like that, so. Well, I&#8217;m more like, in or for Brad or, or was this for advanced? You know, you&#8217;re working with a good brand for me, just personally, I know this. They put their personality in their text, but still talking about business, there&#8217;s been people that vulgar, but they&#8217;re really straight to the point about their business.</p><p>There&#8217;s been people that&#8217;s very nice, but they&#8217;re still straight to the point about their business. But there&#8217;s been people that they want you to do it with. You&#8217;re what they requested you to do and you&#8217;ll be compliant and you&#8217;ll do everything. But they won&#8217;t really. You&#8217;ll be like, Oh, thank you for this revision. Happy take two times the content that they requested from you, for example, and they won&#8217;t get back to you for like two weeks.</p><p>Those are the people. Those are the same ones for a lot reason that they all work with you again. I&#8217;m like, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d work with you again.</p>								</div>
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									<p>It assures me. It&#8217;s like, yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So I mean, so for both sides, how they relate is on communication. Just communicate with each other and then you&#8217;ll realize you guys are both like in very similar ways. You guys are both different businesses. That&#8217;s just trying to be seen. Everyone&#8217;s just trying to get some type of outcome out of this, whether it be money or nonprofit.</p><p>But you&#8217;re both on the same mission and understand each other even if you don&#8217;t really communicate well. Even this person is from China, not from us. There&#8217;s always some type of like human similarity that we&#8217;re both trying to get at with what we&#8217;re talking to each other. Also, we wouldn&#8217;t be doing it at all. So. Yeah, right. You&#8217;ll be afraid of.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. And of the day we&#8217;re all the same. And then not only there, but we&#8217;ve got the common goals by we&#8217;re both trying the right collab, right.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Like we wouldn&#8217;t be here.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s right.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. But you have a business right now. I wouldn&#8217;t be here even for me. I&#8217;m a very appreciative person, so I like being in other like, well, as you go up in the ranks, like there&#8217;s a, there&#8217;s a big three and a half from my. MOULITSAS Then if I look closely watching this get ready so monster, if you&#8217;re just getting started, they are the perfect one right you&#8217;re number two collapsed they&#8217;re they care about this monster because they&#8217;ll when it comes to finance or if you have this view and the brand they take care of both you guys and they&#8217;re the middle man of everything you&#8217;re paid.</p><p>So that&#8217;s fair. And the third one is local cat. If you&#8217;re ready to go like, like get ready. But like at the same time, still do. Like you have to know what you&#8217;re doing with them. But those are like the big three and the last my like the Shadow Gumdrop, they&#8217;re like the miscellaneous cool ones that they&#8217;re easy to work with.</p><p>But yeah, I don&#8217;t know how they accept people, but yeah, respect your or this for my influences. We should respect all your business with all these roster platforms. Great. A lot of us will be here without them. What else? Beware of the death. Oh, one more thing before you go. Beware of the A.I. influencer coming up in a few years where we&#8217;ll just have an air of person looking like us do these.</p><p>It&#8217;s for these new DC people that don&#8217;t even need us. That less money, that&#8217;s less business, that&#8217;s more competition. And beware that it is going to come someday. Maybe not now. And even if it does come, it&#8217;s not going to be very complete. It&#8217;s going to have like a lot of like being asked to fix that&#8217;s coming. So prepare your craft now and enjoy what you&#8217;re doing real well.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Thanks so much for a shout out to people. Find it and follow you online.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Instagram the slash versatile VR s e 80 y l e. You can also find me on Spotify, the same name versatile. You&#8217;ll find me on YouTube, the same name versatile Apple Music, the same name versatile. And I said every hour and.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I took a certain platform. Yeah, yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I tell you, you get it. And I thank you for big applause there for everything. And yeah, wish everyone a good day.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Excellent thank you versus say yeah for joining again.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Have a good one. Thank.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #49 &#8211; An Ingenious Product for Dog Owners &#124; Lisa Bast &#8211; WoofPackTrails</title>
		<link>https://afluencer.com/podcast-episode-49-an-ingenious-product-for-dog-owners-lisa-bast-woofpacktrails/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeljko Nemet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Lisa Bast, the visionary founder of WoofPackTrails, as our esteemed guest. Meet Lisa Bast: The Mind Behind WoofPackTrails Lisa Bast, the innovative mind [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://afluencer.com/podcast-episode-49-an-ingenious-product-for-dog-owners-lisa-bast-woofpacktrails/">Podcast Episode #49 &#8211; An Ingenious Product for Dog Owners | Lisa Bast &#8211; WoofPackTrails</a> appeared first on <a href="https://afluencer.com">AFLUENCER</a>.</p>
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									<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Lisa Bast, the visionary founder of WoofPackTrails, as our esteemed guest.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Lisa Bast, the innovative mind driving WoofPackTrails, takes center stage in the Afluencer podcast series. With a wealth of experience in the world of influencer marketing, Lisa shares captivating insights, challenges, and triumphs that have shaped her brand&#8217;s journey.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Join us in exploring the enchanting world of WoofPackTrails through the eyes of Lisa Bast herself. We&#8217;ve embedded the riveting YouTube podcast video below, offering an exclusive glimpse into the transformative power of influencer marketing.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Lisa Bast. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled WoofPackTrails&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So this anti-microbial material is traded to kill odor causing microbes. They use that on in the medical industry, on hospital gurneys, hospital beds. So you bag your waste and you put it in the middle and secure it with Velcro and you don&#8217;t smell it. And you can walk hands free. You don&#8217;t have to carry the bag. Waste. My dog is I have 13 and a half years old, my first dog ever.</p><p>And, you know, when I first started walking here, nobody told me. That&#8217;s usually when they the poop. So I was walking along and I wasn&#8217;t prepared enough bags or anything and just pooping on people&#8217;s lots. And I was like, Oh my God, I have to remember and have to go back and get in my car and drive it, pick it up, because I felt so guilty about it.</p><p>And so I was like, There&#8217;s got to be a better way.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to the influencer podcast where we are talking was packed today, so we&#8217;ve got a whole product for dog influencers and dog people, myself included. Some interesting talk to Lisa Bass. She&#8217;s the creator of The Wolf Pack. Tell us about the Wolf pack, how it works so you can actually pick up after your dog. And I don&#8217;t have to carry it around in my hand or I get my cup of coffee and I&#8217;m worried about it with poop.</p><p>I can actually put it into some sort of sanitary pack and continue on with our walk. Is that right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s true. The middle. The middle compartment, which I&#8217;ll grab here if you can see inside there.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yep.</p>								</div>
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									<p>It is. It is lined with an antimicrobial material. So this antimicrobial material is traded to kill odor causing bug microbes. They use that on in the medical industry, on hospital gurneys, hospital beds. So you bag your waste and you put it in the middle and, you know, secure it with Velcro and you don&#8217;t smell it. And you can walk hands free.</p><p>You don&#8217;t have to carry the bag waste, you don&#8217;t have to smell. It also has separate pockets for all your essentials. So it&#8217;s like an all in one dog lock accessory bag.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s great because you want the dog. I don&#8217;t want to say this too loud. She&#8217;s laying. Right. But you want the treats there, right? And the.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>And the bags. But you want an A max. So you have the separate compartments, so. Well, I&#8217;m curious, what inspired you? What inspired you to come up with it? Because it&#8217;s kind of genius and is one of my least favorite things with the wax is you have the bag and you&#8217;re trying to get rid of it, and then you&#8217;ve got this.</p><p>You&#8217;re not. If you had a part, maybe you have the garbage cans from in the neighborhood, you kind of that moral quandary of, Do I feel bad about putting this in this? This can I&#8217;m just trying to get rid of this thing. So it&#8217;s nice that you take away all those hassle. So what made you kind of come up with this?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well, you know, my dog is I have a 13 and a half years old, my first dog ever. And, you know, when I first started walking here, nobody told me. That&#8217;s usually when they they poop. Yeah. So I was walking along and I wasn&#8217;t prepared enough bags or anything, and he was pooping on people&#8217;s lawns and I was like, Oh my God, I have to remember and have to go back and get in my car and drive to pick it up because I felt so guilty about it.</p><p>And so I was like, There&#8217;s got to be a better way. Well, you know, when I was researching, I saw who bag holders and then treat bags, but nothing that was an all in one. So like I want something that&#8217;s an all in one, I can put my cell phone everything in there. Yeah. So I did that. It took me about oh, three years to do seven prototypes before I found what I really liked.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, very cool. Yeah, I can imagine the microbiome. Antimicrobial and microbial. Thank you. But that was like kind of a breakthrough then in terms of, you know, getting rid of the like, I mean, the smell. I mean, that&#8217;s some serious stuff and it&#8217;s hospital grade.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it is. And I think what differentiates that from other, you know, odor causing or odor inhibiting materials is that it actually kills microbes because that&#8217;s treated to kill odor causing microbes, bacteria.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So, yeah, that&#8217;s awesome. But what is the maintenance look like then? Are you are you washing that every time or every so often? How does that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I don&#8217;t really need to do that. You don&#8217;t have to know now. You don&#8217;t have to. I mean, if if it if it&#8217;s somehow something bleeds on it or something gets on it, which has never happened to me, you just pull it out, wipe it with a soft cloth, you know, with warm water. And it&#8217;s the same with the outside of it.</p><p>Yes. It&#8217;s, you know, very durable. You don&#8217;t have to wash it. Just wipe it clean.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>No, it&#8217;s low maintenance.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s awesome. Okay. Yeah. So you even got room for the cell phone in the back?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, yeah. It&#8217;s got three, three large pockets besides the middle compartment.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, Yeah. Okay, cool. That&#8217;s awesome. How&#8217;s it been working from a distribution standpoint? Do you have it into, you know, what&#8217;s work for you or where is it found too? Did you have it into physical stores or mostly you&#8217;re selling it online through your website?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, mostly online. I do do vendor shows, but I&#8217;m going to be also launching on Amazon in the next month or so.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, that&#8217;s helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Well, congratulations. So are we looking to influencers? And as part of that, to create the demand, I was talking to someone who, you know, pretty well versed in Amazon and e-commerce stuff last week, and that was kind of his approach. Was he like his clients to the brands they have multi channels with their website to Amazon presence but then you got to create something to drive that demand so that people are looking for the work pack on Amazon.</p><p>Right. Or they&#8217;re looking for it and then they they float to Amazon. So is that part of your thinking with the influencers is to create that demand, get them out there, having to show it off.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes, creating that brand awareness. You know, they can, they can get it on the site or they can get it on Amazon. And I think to some, some affluent influencers like to partner at least some some of the ones I&#8217;ve tried to reach out to have like exclusive partnerships with certain brands like, Hey, I&#8217;d love to do your bag, but I already have somebody similar.</p><p>I&#8217;m working with an exclusively positive partnership, which is what I would love to do too.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, cool. Very cool. And what would that look like then, from an influencer standpoint in terms of compensation and product? You know, walk us through that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. I mean, I think it would be something we could try out for six months, see how you know, how it works for both of us and, you know, negotiate the the compensation. So, I mean, sometimes they want money upfront, sometimes they want commission. So it&#8217;s something that we both that I&#8217;ve in the past work with employers through both negotiated the bill.</p><p>We felt comfortable with that mutually beneficial relationship.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Got it. And then an existing affiliate program running also I see you&#8217;ve got a 20% commission on the collab, right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Right.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Awesome. So I there want to get in. Is that kind of open anyone could sign up for the affiliate if I want to do a post walk in busy over here, I can sign up for a program and get my affiliate link and do my little retail and have, you know, my couple hundred followers. They can see it and get my other dog people interested.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I think I think it&#8217;s it&#8217;s you know, people that well influencers that have dogs that in its greatest they have multiple dogs that they&#8217;re outdoors with them a lot they&#8217;re on the go there in the mountains, they&#8217;re in the trails things like that because it is an outdoor on for for pet owners on the go.</p><p>So and it makes it easier because you know I, I had to tell you that about six weeks ago I switched my dog to a new brand of dog food. Oh, it was very high protein.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Okay.</p>								</div>
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									<p>And you know, and a short 45 minute walk, he actually pooped six times.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s impressive.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s and yeah. And I thought to myself, if I didn&#8217;t have this bag, I&#8217;d be walking around six bags of junk.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Did you imagine and I salute you for having six bags wrapped.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Benefit of having a bag of the wolf pack.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve got my little up. I&#8217;ve got my little canister hooked on there and are pulling them out. And I&#8217;m thinking, are you kidding me? You know, I mean, and not just in one place. He moved to another spot. In another spot. I&#8217;m running after him with it. It&#8217;s like, man, you know, I mean, after get used to it is it doesn&#8217;t do that.</p><p>But if I didn&#8217;t have that bag I would have been miserable.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Right? Yeah. 13 and a half hours. That&#8217;s a that&#8217;s a great accomplishment. I&#8217;m sorry. I can imagine. And I know with the senior dogs also, you&#8217;re always kind of chasing after I had a couple of the seniors before. And that&#8217;s part of life right there. You&#8217;re trudging around and the the tummy troubles is always at the end, right?</p><p>You&#8217;re always switching the foods in the snack. Yes. That&#8217;s a great innovation. And progress for the dog. Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Cool. Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well, thank you. Please, we will get the link to the collab below the video here below the podcast. So our influencers on an influencer can click and apply whether they&#8217;re interested in your in your affiliate program, which again has a 20% commission or if they would like to chat with you about potentially partnering and having like an exclusive partnership for the multi months as you had mentioned before.</p><p>I let you go, Lisa, where else can people find Wolf pack and follow you online and on social media?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. So I&#8217;m on Instagram at Wattpad Pack for you. Facebook left cat trails and Twitter wolf pack trails.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Excellent. And again, we will get the link to your collab here. And thanks for joining us and also for creating a kind of a must have product for us dog owners. I mean, that&#8217;s genius to have and also the ability to not have to wash that thing is impressive.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, hands free odor, free, low maintenance, you know. Yeah, it and it&#8217;s durable last for years I&#8217;ve had people that have had their bags for five years. Now that&#8217;s still going strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I recently came out with border design, so now they&#8217;re kind of like, Well, I love my bag I&#8217;ve had for five years, but I want an indoor design now, so.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, yeah, very cool. Yeah, they&#8217;re buying again.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, yeah. It&#8217;s got to be attractive. You know that, right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. That&#8217;s great. Well, thanks so much, Lisa. Appreciate it. With the Wolfpack. So everyone follow and let&#8217;s get the applications into the collab here. Thanks again, Lisa.</p>								</div>
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									<p>All right. Thank you.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #48 &#8211; Badass Blankets for Home and Lifestyle Influencers &#124; Cornelis Clement &#8211; Badass Blankets</title>
		<link>https://afluencer.com/podcast-episode-48-badass-blankets-for-home-and-lifestyle-influencers-cornelis-clement-badass-blankets/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeljko Nemet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2024 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Cornelis Clement, the visionary founder of Badass Blankets, as our esteemed guest. Meet Cornelis Clement: The Mind Behind Badass Blankets Cornelis Clement, the [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Cornelis Clement. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled Badass Blankets&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I started a couple of months ago. So it&#8217;s quite new and was starting with with the new T-shirts. And then also, like anybody else, I guess, who&#8217;s entering the beauty business, but then if you go down the rabbit hole, then you see maybe better to to try to sell some high margin products, just putting in the prompt and you have to tweak it a bit and polish it and everything.</p><p>And so and I can think of some things new people are discussing that it&#8217;s not really ads, but it&#8217;s that&#8217;s not going anywhere. So then take advantage of it. But you sell T-shirts and you have a marketplace like spring or whatever, and they take the most of it and it doesn&#8217;t make sense better to have a store. And so on your own, they&#8217;re responsible for everything.</p><p>But you keep track of it.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our Influencers podcast. We&#8217;re talking bad ass blankets today. We&#8217;re talking bad ass woven blankets, bad ass minky blankets, bad ass beach blankets, and bad ass wall art. We&#8217;ve got Cornelius Clement here. He&#8217;s the founder of Bad Ass Blankets. So we&#8217;re going to talk about not only these products, but also opportunities for influencers to promote our analysis.</p><p>Bad ass blankets. So, Cornelius, welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us today. And we&#8217;ll get into the products in a moment. Can you kind of share what&#8217;s new on your side on the with bad ass blankets?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Okay. Yeah. First of all, if things were having me being young, my company started a couple of months ago. This is quite new and that was starting with with T-shirts and and clothes and like anybody else, I guess was entering the of business. But then if you go down the rabbit hole and you see it&#8217;s maybe better to to try to sell some high margin products and also because I had some designs and it was important for me to to showcase my art kind of.</p><p>So then I stumbled upon a blanket and it&#8217;s a it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s a three now.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So it&#8217;s your art. Cornell is on the blankets.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So to be honest, it&#8217;s I generated I thought probably people who don&#8217;t know probably.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You&#8217;re the hand behind the.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah it&#8217;s just putting in the prompt you have to tweak it a bit and polish it and everything and so and like everything this is something new people are discussing that it&#8217;s not really art. And it was the same. And then the movies came out. This is not like the same like, like a lot of stuff, but that&#8217;s not going anywhere.</p><p>So then take advantage of it and you don&#8217;t have to hire any designer anymore. It&#8217;s quite the lucrative stuff that&#8217;s creating art and this was the main reason why I went into the because it&#8217;s easier to to produce stuff.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Interesting. And then you mentioned from a margin standpoint, then you find blankets are higher margin product than just standard T or Yeah exactly.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Wearables probably know if you sell T-shirts and you have a marketplace like T Spring or whatever and they take most of it and you left with three or $4 or so and you&#8217;re going to burn out before you sell t shirts, which has to do so much work into it and they&#8217;re not acceptable. So it&#8217;s a waste of time.</p><p>In the end.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You Yeah, I understand that. So I saw you on multiple platforms in a saw on Etsy presents for you as well in addition to your Shopify store.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So no, I&#8217;m not even making T-shirts. You have to kind of Etsy with bubble tea, spring, whatever to sell to take a really big part of the income round and blessed with pennies more or less. And it doesn&#8217;t make sense to me also. That&#8217;s the question. Do you have a store or do you do it on marketplaces? And because I want to have my own or keep my data and my clients and whatever else anyway, but I do have a store and so on your own, they&#8217;re responsible for everything.</p><p>But then you keep the profit. And most. Most of it.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, right. That&#8217;s the way that&#8217;s the way to do it. And I know the challenge, which I appreciate. If you haven&#8217;t gone through a few times myself, is always that demand generation. How do you get the customers first to the so the website right and the buy So with that as buying goods then we&#8217;re turning it to influencers.</p><p>It&#8217;s in your collab and I know you&#8217;ve had an affiliate program going for a little while, so tell us about that. What have you done so far in terms of your affiliate program and then what are we looking for in terms of our collab and potential applicants from the influencer side?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Also, to be honest. So I started with affiliated into influencer a few weeks ago. So before I did some paid advertising, some organic research and native ads and so on was okay. Still not profitable yet, but that&#8217;s okay. Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>With those that where those AdWords like I can Google Google AdWords to.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Keyword it&#8217;s it&#8217;s okay about the things you have to put to put a bit of budget into it with the one with $20 per day. We don&#8217;t get very far with this because competition is there to spending more. So you don&#8217;t get to Sean I guess so. An opinion for this for the kind of products I do, but I think influencer affiliates would be the best audience people can see the product it seems to be and influence if you can relate to the products and it&#8217;s more likely then you can also build the community more or less.</p><p>This also kind of the going up make the easy sale so better. Have a community with like minded people like stuff into them are going to to to buy again or be connected to the brand somehow and this is I guess probably best way to do this with the influencer.</p>								</div>
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									<p>With yeah for sure. Right. To get the repeat buyers as you said the problem with some of these paying online right. And you&#8217;re paying per click and the $20 I&#8217;m sure I know it evaporates like that because Facebook and people are happy that they&#8217;re happy to track. They&#8217;re happy to charge your credit card for whatever your budget is.</p><p>It&#8217;s amazing They&#8217;ll they&#8217;ll hit the full car. But to get like you mentioned, to get the repeat customers right, to get the community where the young people are into your product and and and buying on a repeat a basis. So from the setup side then for influencers who are watching this, listening to this, it&#8217;s a commission opportune any that we have with that ass blankets.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Are both getting gifts the temple of course so you can see for yourself what can be. And of course you should own as well if you if you put into hard work. So then I&#8217;m offering a commission structure as well and working on the top systems with it. You get to others for your hard work, so you bring more customers and then you earn more.</p><p>And in the end, of course, with the app, this is how actually it works. I guess if would influence of how.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, 100%. And we will get the link to your collab here in the show notes so our influencer influencers can apply and you&#8217;ll be able to click the link to the Badass Blankets collab and then just say I&#8217;m interested and then we&#8217;ll send a note over to our analyst to review your application and hopefully get you proves you can start chatting back and forth about that.</p><p>What types of influencers are you looking for specifically for the effort here?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Now let&#8217;s I guess must be in the home dÃ©cor niche for sure, but also this different home dÃ©cor can be everything can be the ranch in Texas that&#8217;s 55 year old mom and also lost in New York or whatever. So yeah, he for sure. And then we have to see if it&#8217;s a kid. So I guess because some designs are probably not for anybody.</p><p>So I think even the home the commission should be should be relevant for both. So I look at the content of the influencer. The influencer looks at my, my, my page, and if you both can find a way to work together with I guess what anything, because you never know who&#8217;s who&#8217;s buying the answer. So we at least the home decor which maybe some outside would make sense to her.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s an excellent opportunity and very, very unique product with unique designs here and then also nicer to get a higher commission and potentially a product sample as Cornell&#8217;s here. So we will get the again, link to the collab here for bad ass blankets generally online. Then Cornell is how can people follow and connect with that as blankets in terms of social media?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Have an Instagram handle? Of course Facebook page and look what&#8217;s going on there right now or is going to change now, but just maybe with an email or Instagram, DM, Facebook, whatever. My phone number is also my website. So many ways.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I love that. Yeah, I love the personal touch. Once you hear about pages like, Hey guys, it&#8217;s me, it&#8217;s Cornelius, we&#8217;re talking bad ass blankets, which is great. You go to a lot of stores and many Shopify stores. They look nice and there&#8217;s no personality there.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So when it&#8217;s important to connect with your consumers, as you said.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So Exactly. Exactly. Which is why we do these. And it was great having you on, Cornell. So we were able to introduce you to our influencers and get a feel for bad ass blankets and get to see the man behind the blanket. So thanks so much for joining us and for hosting your collab with us. Look forward to sending is great influencers your way and having them apply.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Okay, perfect. All right, thanks so much. I will. Take care. Bye bye.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #47 &#8211; Scale Your E-Commerce Brand &#124; Neil Twa &#8211; Voltage Holdings</title>
		<link>https://afluencer.com/podcast-episode-47-scale-your-e-commerce-brand-neil-twa-voltage-holdings/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeljko Nemet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Neil Twa, the visionary founder of Voltage Holdings, as our esteemed guest. Meet Neil Twa: The Mind Behind Voltage Holdings Neil Twa, the [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://afluencer.com/podcast-episode-47-scale-your-e-commerce-brand-neil-twa-voltage-holdings/">Podcast Episode #47 &#8211; Scale Your E-Commerce Brand | Neil Twa &#8211; Voltage Holdings</a> appeared first on <a href="https://afluencer.com">AFLUENCER</a>.</p>
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									<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Neil Twa, the visionary founder of Voltage Holdings, as our esteemed guest.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Neil Twa, the innovative mind driving Voltage Holdings, takes center stage in the Afluencer podcast series. With a wealth of experience in the world of influencer marketing, Neil shares captivating insights, challenges, and triumphs that have shaped his brand&#8217;s journey.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Neil Twa. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled Voltage Holdings&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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					<h3 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">In Conversation with Neil Twa, Founder of Voltage Holdings:</h3>				</div>
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									<p>So in the simple terms, we continue to launch and grow and scale brands across e-commerce channels Amazon, FBA, Shopify. Tick Tock. It just kind of demands wherever the brand goes to man camps or on Amazon, demand awareness on Tick Tock shops or we probably will get into today is the halo effect and why it&#8217;s an omni channel strategy is something that everybody in 2024 needs to be doing.</p><p>They should have been doing it two years ago, but it&#8217;s not too late to get started. It started with us building our own brand, got our first seven figures in 2014 on Amazon and then been into omni channels and we&#8217;ve call our as seen on TV strategy because the first product base I created actually came off a television after the outcome is there&#8217;s some challenge in every business lie and you just may have a better aptitude at the marketing social media and pay traffic angle where others may have it more on the demand capture SEO side of Amazon and logistics and operational control.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our influencer podcast. We&#8217;ve got an e-commerce expert on today who we&#8217;re going to talk about a variety of things. We&#8217;ve got Neil Trois, who&#8217;s got a bio about as long as, as, as anything we&#8217;ll have to draw down. But Neil is an e-commerce expert entrepreneur, investor, speaker, podcast host himself. So we&#8217;re looking to kind of pick Neil&#8217;s brain today about what he&#8217;s up to and then what&#8217;s going on in the e-commerce world, especially with regards to selling to consumers marketing, getting in front of people, which we all struggle with.</p><p>I think as AdWords and Google changes its algorithm, AdWords becomes more expensive and Facebook becomes expensive. Everything does. Yeah, and everything. So Neil, you know the drill. Welcome and give us a little tease. Neil, what are you working on these days?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, so in the simple terms, we continue to launch and grow and scale brands across e-commerce channels, Amazon, FBA, Shopify, tick Tock, It just kind of demands wherever the brand goes, Demand camps are on Amazon, demand awareness on Tick Tock shops, or we probably will get into today is the halo effect and why it&#8217;s an omni channel strategy is something that everybody in 2024 needs to be doing.</p><p>They should have been doing it two years ago, but it&#8217;s not too late to get started and that&#8217;s probably some of things we&#8217;ll cover today because it&#8217;s very important around that out with costs, CPM going up, ads, issues with account closures and just you know, the differences in simple terminology between demand capture and demand creation. Those are be something I think we can probably begin today.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s great. Yeah. And actually I&#8217;d love to dig into that in a moment. First, we can just kind of set the table. How do you specifically work with brands? Are you buying them outright or are you investing in them or are you consulting with them or is it all the above? How does your current portfolio look in and how what are the mechanics of that in terms of.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So all of the above, It started with us building our own brand, got our first seven figures in 2014 on Amazon and then been into omni channels. We call our as seen on TV strategy because the first product base I created actually came off a television ad and so I started to create that demand capture growth aspect on Amazon first before it kind of became clichÃ©.</p><p>And then as the Internet and social webs went out much larger and faster in the last five, seven, ten years, a lot of demand capture on the DTC side as well. But predominantly Amazon&#8217;s kind of become a foundational component of spillover and effect. So we&#8217;ve sort of stayed predominant in that. So we invest, we grow, we can sold, we acquire and exit brands on Amazon FBA, but we always want them to have omni channel.</p><p>Now we always want them to have some other percentage of revenue from another market channel, not just Amazon, because of the demand capture and aspect of creation and domain awareness that can occur on that social media side that can incur on the DTC side, that can occur in places like Tick Tock Shop and stuff, and then seeing up to 3% of it still back to Amazon where the captured demand could be there.</p><p>If you&#8217;re doing it correctly. If not, I&#8217;ve seen just recently someone did very good on a on a video that went viral on TikTok shop for their product and their brand. But the spillover actually affected another brand on Amazon, and they stalked out because so many sales came in so fast, they couldn&#8217;t keep up with demand. It wasn&#8217;t even there video.</p><p>It was a competition video that went off on another channel and they got to capture that demand on Amazon and basically blew out their inventory. So there&#8217;s a lot of cause and effect occurring. But yeah, we are in each component of that phase growth optimization, scale and exit and yeah, interesting.</p>								</div>
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									<p>What&#8217;s the motivation for the omnichannel and diversifying then? Is it a margin thing? I know Amazon likes to squeeze its partners like they&#8217;re doing B2B or is it like a survival kind of thing? Just stuff changes so fast. We need multiple channels and well.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I mean, business is nothing but a series of problem solving activities every day anyways. So whether you&#8217;re on the DTC world trying to solve it through ad acquisition, media ad CPM, rising cost attribution issues, you know, iPhone, IOS device updates in the past, the newest ones that are affecting people to the outcome. Is there some challenge in every business lie and you just may have a better aptitude at the marketing social media and pay traffic angle where others may have it more on the demand capture SEO side of Amazon and logistics and operational controls, which is what more of that platform is about today, which is where a lot of people I think missed that.</p><p>Mark. And so when you hear less screaming about Amazon today, it&#8217;s typically those lower price, lower retail sellers that are screaming about Amazon&#8217;s changes and fees. Whereas since we&#8217;ve been playing in the 50 to 200 plus in retail price point, the fees have actually gone down in the market share is going up. So we&#8217;re going the other direction with the way we play with brands.</p><p>We started out on the low end and over ten years we&#8217;ve now moved into the higher end products, higher end affinity brands and are seeing more positive outcome from that. But again, it&#8217;s a series of problem solving over there because you&#8217;re on a platform like any platform people, while Amazon is in control of all your platform, we&#8217;ll try running Facebook ads and see what happens when they shut down your account, Right?</p><p>Go over to Google and see what happens when you get banned. Go to Shopify when they banned your channel too, because they can do that too. And go to Etsy, go to any platform, you know. So at the end of the day, we need to just look at all of them as tools. And some people like certain tools versus other somewhat Makita somewhat DeWalt.</p><p>So on Amazon. So much Shopify. But in this day and age you need to understand a tool is a tool and you can use it to your benefit. Then you should take every opportunity around the channel to use it, especially if you&#8217;re building e-commerce companies with the end in mind, which is where I get down to the core component of voltage really loves to do, and that is look at acquiring companies for our IP groups and building a portfolio of assets that voltage runs in a omni channel situation that allows for growth through different changes in the market, inflation, stagflation, etc. don&#8217;t get affected as much when you have more channels of operation.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, got it. So let&#8217;s break this down from a getting started standpoint. If I&#8217;m taking like an average Shopify store owner and this is something that we see a lot with our customers, users, people that we interact with, right? So they install our app and they&#8217;re relatively new. They&#8217;ve done a lot of work to get things up and running.</p><p>There&#8217;s a store, there&#8217;s a product they&#8217;re shipping, they&#8217;re live there in the U.S. and Canada, and they&#8217;ve got maybe some traffic coming to the store. And now they&#8217;re scratching their head saying, Man, what do I do? I&#8217;ve invested a lot to get to this point. And I think that&#8217;s a point in which they realize, and I&#8217;ve got a lot farther to go even to get that single channel going.</p><p>If they&#8217;re just looking at their Shopify type of empire, they&#8217;re right. Or what they&#8217;re hoping to build. So how do you break things down in terms of that order of priority? Be like, Hey, here&#8217;s what we got a new next year or we got to didn&#8217;t actually put a well, I think in terms of problem solving, yeah, but of course then limited resources, right.</p><p>So what do you sell first.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well I mean limitation of resources is always just risk because it&#8217;s technically not limited. It&#8217;s limited by your risk. Could you go out and get at a large capital line to run? Absolutely. You just have risk and not knowing how to apply it correctly or use it correctly. So therefore is your risk. So really, when people say they have capital limitations, it&#8217;s actually at risk limitations in what they do, Right.</p><p>Would you agree? Because at this point, you know, if I don&#8217;t know where to put it and I&#8217;m going to spend it and blow it and I won&#8217;t see it recouped.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s an excellent point. Yeah, that is a good point because you&#8217;re is it different and then it&#8217;s a different game you&#8217;re playing.</p>								</div>
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									<p>And then it&#8217;s a different game, right? So when we.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Got hit these milestones where.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You risk it if you&#8217;re already down the line of building a DTC brand and you&#8217;re up to that point, you&#8217;ve done your optimizations and obviously you think you can get your add to cart, you know, above three 7% and you can get down to, you know, click through rates and get everything kind of optimized, which is a big component of mechanics on the side of the DTC world.</p><p>Unless you have someone who can copy that, optimize that for you and really get that dialed in. But the other effect of, of course, is you need to be smart at marketing and you&#8217;ve got to have an understanding of media buying an algorithmic traffic or you simply will just blow money on algorithms who really just want to take your money because that&#8217;s their profit center.</p><p>Same thing on Amazon, right? Amazon&#8217;s PPC side is the same deal. They&#8217;re becoming an advertising juggernaut. They&#8217;re going to surpass their AWP is as profits as a business with advertising by 2026.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, is that right? I didn&#8217;t realize that. So these are in in platform ads on Amazon then paper though.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah well Amazon has become demand capture when it was originally demand exposure it is now demand capture of anything that spills over from a comfortable zone because it&#8217;s the sixth largest logistics company. Everybody expects it and they are moving to one day shipping. So as in as a mechanism of deployment, that&#8217;s hard to beat. So you have to kind of look at how do I take advantage of that if I&#8217;m running mirror and tick tock shop traffic and over here and I&#8217;m getting acquisitions even at higher cost, I need to be able to look back to Amazon and say, Do I have anything that&#8217;s capturing the spillover?</p><p>Because that&#8217;s most likely where it&#8217;s going. Recent studies show that 30% of traffic on television ads that come off of physical product ad are actually ending up on Amazon, even if they don&#8217;t say, go to Amazon for this product. So if so, yeah, I started Amazon FBA first and have for many, many years. And while I&#8217;ve done DTC, I always like the aspect of proving that I can capture demand in the market with Amazon first.</p><p>And then when I do outside marketing, I know that demand is going to capture it backwards. If I don&#8217;t, the causality is a somebody goes off viral 2 million, you know, TikTok video views over here. And I mean I account for that traffic back over here. It may spill to somebody else&#8217;s brand and I want it to spill to mine.</p><p>So if I&#8217;m going to go out in the DTC world, I want to make sure someone knows how to get back to me. And that really becomes Amazon. It is kind of a known go to low barrier, a lot of money being spent on Amazon, $4 per person per year on prime memberships. You know, that&#8217;s a great, great place to capture that demand, creating demand and having that audience, you know, conversation and creating that audience conversation really does take marketing skills and marketing as just an activity, as sales.</p><p>And so many people get caught up in that activity and forget about the revenue aspect of it, like actually producing revenue, meaning they&#8217;re not willing to spend enough to figure out what it takes for them to actually acquire a customer. Okay, Once you acquire that customer and you have, say, a $39 product, maybe hypothetically, or a $25 product, but it takes you 49 to acquire that customer, you&#8217;ve solved one major problem, right?</p><p>You may think, Well, Neil, that&#8217;s stupid. I&#8217;m now $20 upside down in acquiring that customer, that for a $39 product or whatever, and I have spent $59 to get it. I&#8217;m 20 bucks upside down. You need to make that up and back in sales. This is where you actually have one on one game and lost on another. You need to be able to sell them a second product or a third product or a subscription.</p><p>You need to get them through text messages and SMS systems and direct mail. You need to go down deep in the follow up and in the bottom of the funnel stuff. It isn&#8217;t that you pay $20 more to acquire that customer is that you actually acquire the customer. Kudos. And I think people are not willing to go out and see what it takes for them to actually acquire a customer first, to then learn how to monetize that backwards into their systems.</p><p>Does that make sense?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s a great insight and that&#8217;s, I think, how the big players can we say, Yeah, right. And kind of always have. Right. Walmart didn&#8217;t give away the DVDs upfront because.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Buying got to buy the market.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Share in a big store, right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>You got to buy the market share and then find additional products is why there are 250,000 SKUs of which only like 8% make their 460 something billion a year.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, interesting. Is that low?</p>								</div>
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									<p>It&#8217;s very low on the overarching amount of products they actually make the majority of their profit on. And that 80 sort of 20 rule, if you will, flows through e-commerce companies too, which is why our five by five plan is to get five products in the marketplace to prove which is the 8020, so that we can take that and turn it into ten and 15 SKUs at that point.</p>								</div>
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									<p>By per company is your goal.</p>								</div>
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									<p>What, five by five is our is our playbook, which means we&#8217;re going to launch at least five products in the market. It&#8217;s a law of averages, right? You don&#8217;t invest a lot into just one product. I mean, I know that sounds great. At some point you will, but right upfront, you don&#8217;t know what your market, your seller account, Amazon, DTC, tick tock or whatever is really going to bear.</p><p>Ultimately, you see someone else doing it. So you think I can just immediately replicate it. But that&#8217;s a logical fallacy in this argument. You can&#8217;t just duplicate it. What you can do is say, How can I capture that market share in my account, my price point, my brand, and in my ads and in my space? And then not really worry about them for the moment, just start acquiring share to start getting in there.</p><p>And I think a lot of people miss that point when they go to market. I&#8217;m, you know, now aware that I need to spend 30, 60, 90 days acquiring market share before I start making profit. If you can&#8217;t do that, then who is ultimately going to win? So means you actually have to understand what it takes to bear the market.</p><p>That&#8217;s you can go test this on your own. It may take you 85 days or 65 or 125. The point is it&#8217;s going to take whatever time it&#8217;s going to take for you to acquire that market share and then prove that you&#8217;re going to do it. That&#8217;s why in the real world of e-commerce, it&#8217;s not really a side hustle or a hobby business.</p><p>Not ultimately it can&#8217;t be, because now you have to be willing to take certain risk to grow the business. When things start to work, you&#8217;ve got to capitalize it. It is the same risk on any other channel that most people fall into. Dropshipping does not work the same way it used to anymore. It won&#8217;t fly on TikTok shop anymore, right?</p><p>They&#8217;re getting to the FBT platform side of it now. Shopify tried to do that, but they discover they&#8217;re they&#8217;re failing at it miserably. And then in their last stock update, they&#8217;re down 20% because most of the people who are trying to get in and use Shopify for that quick side hustle thing aren&#8217;t making more than a thousand bucks and are bailing out and they&#8217;re bailing out really fast.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it was impressive. They managed to scale to the size that they did with a ladder. So many side hustles, right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>So many side hustle, so many dropship, so many of all of those things. But like any sort of longevity and any sort of bell curve of growth and adoption, there has to be some stabilization to the platform for the people who were on it or it will start to decline if the people are on it or just paying monthly fees and making no money, it&#8217;s going to decline.</p><p>And there are other places in the market, in the industry that that&#8217;s occurring right now where people are bailing out of those platforms, those funnel platforms, because they simply aren&#8217;t able to make it work. They&#8217;re just paying monthly fees. And so you got to get in front of that. Sales is everything is the mantra. We keep saying around here.</p><p>Sales fixes everything, right? And so first you got to get to the sales, what by whatever means possible, even if it&#8217;s not profitable in the first acquisition, you&#8217;ve got to get the sales from there. Then you got to work the numbers. And I think a lot of people just don&#8217;t understand that. And you mentioned affiliates at one point or influencers, right?</p><p>Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>What&#8217;s yeah, I love to talk affiliates, influencers and even with regards to your initial portfolio, so and I totally agree, right, You got it. You got to acquire customers and then you worry about making money later, but you better figure out how to get a customer right and then what it costs. And so what&#8217;s your initial meal kit?</p><p>Hey, this is what we&#8217;re going to start with. We are going to start, you know, we&#8217;re going to do some AdWords, going to Facebook ads are going to do affiliates, influencers. What&#8217;s your starter kit for?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Or my starter kit is Amazon first. It is. And I know that&#8217;s going to not ring well with a lot of people&#8217;s ears right? The reason is because I don&#8217;t have to split test the funnel. All I have to do really because the funnel of Amazon&#8217;s FBA or fulfilled by Amazon is really done for you. So in that base, all I have to do is make sure I get the product in there and let their logistics inventory and split tested trillion dollar funnel do its thing.</p><p>What I need to do is be very good at the marketing side, the language side, the copy side and the in the avatar aspect of developing that marketing profile for the person that I&#8217;m targeting specifically in the solution they&#8217;re trying to solve, which is less, you know, going for that higher priced solution, less reviews, more specifics, pain points, etc., and then get in front of them and determine how much I can sell and what I&#8217;m what they&#8217;re willing to buy from me.</p><p>And I can do that on demand traffic, right? Amazon is running 8600 units a minute, so it&#8217;s very easy to really determine quickly through organic and PPC marketing on Amazon. Did I hit the metrics right even before the product is sold? I like Dropshipping, but I have to get the inventory and a lot of people don&#8217;t like that, you know, But that&#8217;s also an asset.</p><p>If you think about it from a business perspective, putting money into inventory is an asset. I&#8217;m not putting it into a digital thing. I&#8217;m putting into a physical inventory. It&#8217;s tangible, can be taxed differently and managed differently in taxes and you&#8217;re taking cash out of one place and turning it into physical goods. So there are those at business benefit.</p><p>I know people argue, Well, you have to do inventory. And I&#8217;m like, Well, there are other benefits to the inventory from a business perspective. Yeah, you&#8217;d love to dropship everything. I get it. But again, unless you can differentiate the product, control the product, trademark the product, and even utility patent the product, you have not a business, you&#8217;ve got a side hustle, you&#8217;ve got flip in product for somebody else.</p><p>And for us, it has to create intrinsic value, which means we have to own the process all the way through to the end so that the business becomes a salable asset, right? So we control all that. So the affiliate side or influence or components, those are just traffic channels that also have a cost. You may think, well, I gave the free sample away.</p><p>No, the sample had a cost. I gave away 100 samples. We gave away 100 products at 100, you know, a unit of inventory that had a cost to it. So that&#8217;s like buying traffic really at the end of the day. And the differentiator, of course, is where you do that and how you do that and how you can track it.</p><p>I use joint brands and stuff in the class pass to track it. I have problems with that because I&#8217;d give away so many units and only get so much video back and then find out that some of those people are just manipulating their likes and user accounts. And so my traffic buys were terrible because I&#8217;d give them and, you know, a product and they&#8217;d go out and then it&#8217;s like, well, there&#8217;s no clicks, there&#8217;s no comment, there&#8217;s no traffic.</p><p>Like, you liar, like you just stole that product from me. So that&#8217;s a challenge on Amazon side of the house too, because we have much more complicated terms of service. So there are ways to go in and take the organic side of Amazon on the side, PPC side and give it the validation for the market we need before we go out and say, okay, this price point, this product, you know, this mechanism, now we want to get affiliates or influencers.</p><p>We found it much easier, much faster to go to Tik-Tok shops because of the influencer component and all the data they give us. The influencer can&#8217;t hide like we know they made that gross volume, we know they&#8217;re increasing, we know their user accounts going up. We know their, you know, market share is here and we know that 85% of them target, you know, our particular niche because it&#8217;s literally set up inside of there.</p><p>And so I know also that when I give away a hundred units, I&#8217;m going to get a hundred videos back like it&#8217;s a cross because I don&#8217;t want to get their account dinged. So there are variables of value there and with signed agreements can take that video and then put it back on Amazon and Facebook, etc. and it will do really well.</p><p>So once it&#8217;s validated on TikTok and generated sales, it becomes an asset that I can turn around and go the other way with and turn it into names on sponsored ads and go out and run on Facebook. Right? So then I can take that asset and move at different directions, opening different channels. And I&#8217;ve also discovered that in my experience and the people that are working with us and even clients that I&#8217;ve interviewed or people that come on my podcast, there&#8217;s the larger amount of spillover that halo effect is occurring.</p><p>They actually go back to Amazon from to, Gosh, well, I know nobody wants to hear that and I&#8217;m not trying to like take anything from this, especially those who are listening. But you need to understand to follow the people. You might have to pivot if you create demand capture on DTC for your Facebook and your ads and Google on to your Shopify, you need to be able to track where they went after that.</p><p>Did they go to Tick Tock or Amazon? Because that&#8217;s going to be probably the two places they end up. And if you can track that, you can measure it. That&#8217;s really the important output here, right? Not to favor one channel over another, but to your point, I do start on FBA because I want to find out where the capture is.</p><p>I want to find out where the demand is.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Interesting. How long is tick tock had that going with the tick tock shops and to your liking I guess in terms of the analytics and report.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Well like or dislike because when they rolled out the tick tock shop platform at about October November 2023, not too long ago, they basically in in my case, they went back and retroactively canceled all my Amazon ads to shut down my tick tock shop, which was talking about Amazon. And so they they driver or they rolled it out they did this whole thing and I wasn&#8217;t the only one is the fact that they killed what are called brand referral links that track off Amazon sales backwards and actually give us a commission 10% commission of all sales off social media backwards to Amazon.</p><p>So instead of paying like a 15% referral fee, we only pay a 5% referral fee, which is cool, except they killed those and then they torched my account and a bunch of other people too, right as they rolled it out. Now they&#8217;re kind of laxed on that now. And so you can kind of start using some of that again.</p><p>Now that&#8217;s out, but that&#8217;s just since 2023. But you can see a lot of the, you know, mass and viral traffic that&#8217;s occurring and just the speed at which those shops are moving units and growing is astronomically fast because of the way that social media, you know, chain and all this social platform is really moving extremely fast. So when we find them spilling over to Amazon to buy products, right, get a left over here, get good over there.</p><p>One of our clients, Tammy, he has a product that&#8217;s done about 50 units a day on Amazon. It&#8217;s been on there for like ten years. It just keeps chugging along. She has other products, but this one in particular, it got featured on a video on TikTok shop. Suddenly she&#8217;s selling out before noon and her product ten on Amazon and they&#8217;re over on Amazon buying it now because it&#8217;s sold out on TikTok Shop and then she&#8217;s got it stabilized.</p><p>So she&#8217;s making about 5000 unit sales a day on TikTok, and she&#8217;s raised up to about 25, 30 sales additional a day on Amazon. So everything just went nowhere. And that&#8217;s going to, you know, continue to stay there.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s awesome. So and when they&#8217;re going over to Amazon, these are people who obviously with TikTok shops, they can just buy directly from there. They are. And when you talked about spillover earlier, they&#8217;re actually going to Amazon and typing in the.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Diving board or the brand name specifically. Yeah. So keyword searches on TikTok are becoming extremely viable, right? Because if you type your brand name in on TikTok and you&#8217;re not there, someone else is looking for you. And if you discover that someone&#8217;s on their Pro-tip and you don&#8217;t see a particular well job they&#8217;re doing on TikTok shop, that may be your opportunity to bring a product in there and take advantage of that because the.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s great. It&#8217;s a great tip. Cross-sell. It&#8217;s been awesome. Neil I love the discussion here. So for our brands, you could use your help in terms of setting up an Amazon presence in their marketing going how can they find you? How can they work with voltage.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah voltage DM icon you can go check it out. Voltage Digital Marketing, Time.com or Amazon centric. Although we do omnichannel and our goal is basically to help new sellers or existing sellers reach up another 100 K and net profits during a 12 month engagement with us with a little skin in the game on that to get the incentive in place as part of our consulting and incentive package that we do.</p><p>So we put some skin. We have like one offer. I don&#8217;t make this extremely complicated and I can only help those who are willing to help themselves. Really, At the end of the day, I don&#8217;t have a sales team and this is on large quota. It&#8217;s usually easy three to 5 to 7 people a month come in that qualify for what we&#8217;re doing at the pace we want to go in the in the stage we want to go so we&#8217;re not a mass marketing course, that kind of nonsense.</p><p>We&#8217;re a management consultants see just to be very clear. Clear. And so yeah, if there&#8217;s anybody interested in looking how to level up or if wanting to get in the game a little bit stronger, you know, we&#8217;re usually moving brands pretty fast in the first 12 months and helping them solve the problems of business and overcoming opportunities and frankly, getting them into a sellable state.</p><p>Because the last piece of what&#8217;s in it for us is that we like to grow these businesses up. And then we have what&#8217;s called a first rates of refusal. So they want to be sold that they come to us first and give us an opportunity in by our broker.</p>								</div>
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									<p>And yeah, that&#8217;s, that&#8217;s great. And you mentioned you&#8217;ve got a network also of PE firms that you&#8217;re working with. Are they you&#8217;re so you&#8217;re either doing the acquisition yourself or you&#8217;re brokering with these.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Three RPE groups, which then we end up owning the operations of it.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, very cool. One stop shop. Give us the podcast info too, please.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, High Voltage Business Builder&#8217;s podcast. You can go on Apple, Google, Spotify, side, YouTube, go to the Voltage DMC&#8217;s site, go over to the podcast interviewing guests of all different types, shape sizes, about 60%. E-commerce, 40% business. The business side of anything from real estate to vending machines to mindset to building wealth without Wall Street. And then 60% is roughly in the e-commerce space between Amazon, DTC, tick tock shops and anything around income.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Very cool it&#8217;s been awesome conversation Neil I Voltage Holdings Neil thanks so much for joining us.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Thanks Brett.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #46 &#8211; Looking for Beauty and Fashion Micro Influencers &#124; Irene Schneider &#8211; BeautybyPrettyThingie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2024 20:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Irene Schneider, the visionary founder of BeautybyPrettyThingie, as our esteemed guest. Meet Irene Schneider: The Mind Behind BeautybyPrettyThingie Irene Schneider, the innovative mind [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p>Irene Schneider, the innovative mind driving BeautybyPrettyThingie, takes center stage in the Afluencer podcast series. With a wealth of experience in the world of influencer marketing, Irene shares captivating insights, challenges, and triumphs that have shaped her brand&#8217;s journey.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Join us in exploring the enchanting world of BeautybyPrettyThingie through the eyes of Irene Schneider herself. We&#8217;ve embedded the riveting YouTube podcast video below, offering an exclusive glimpse into the transformative power of influencer marketing.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Irene Schneider. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled BeautybyPrettyThingie&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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					<h3 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">In Conversation with Irene Schneider, Founder of BeautybyPrettyThingie:</h3>				</div>
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									<p>I love fashion. I love beauty. In terms of beauty. I like everything natural. So the line is an all natural line of products and health supplements. In my philosophy that natural beauty, but also beauty from within that you do without from within. My frustration when wearing high heels that I love wearing high heels and fashion and experiencing the excruciating pain wearing them.</p><p>And so I&#8217;m actually a scientist and one day I was so frustrated giving a talk to an audience in very high heels and very painful high heels. And I said, Enough is enough. And I think more and more people are starting to realize, okay, we want things without animal cruelty free for vegans or people that don&#8217;t want to have all these, you know, additives that they are put in these products.</p><p>And they&#8217;re actually not good for your skin because your skin takes everything in.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our influencer podcast. We&#8217;re talking beauty brands and products. Today we&#8217;ve got Irene Schneider. She is the founder of Pretty Thing and Beauty by Pretty Thing. We&#8217;ve got some cool products we&#8217;re going to show you. We got some opportunities for influencers in Beauty and beyond. Irene, welcome. Thanks for joining us today. And what do we have going on the influencer side of things?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Thank you, Brett. I&#8217;m very excited to be here to present my two brands. I&#8217;m very excited. They&#8217;re basically both obviously coming from the same, I would say lifestyle idea, philosophy. I love fashion, I love beauty. In terms of beauty, I like everything natural. So the line is an all natural line of products and health supplements are following my philosophy that natural beauty, but also beauty from within.</p><p>That beauty without, from within. And the fashion brand is actually coming from my frustration when wearing high heels that I love wearing high heels and fashion and experiencing the excruciating pain and wearing them. And so I&#8217;m actually a scientist. And one day I was so frustrated giving a talk to an audience in very high heels and very painful high heels that I said, enough is enough.</p><p>Why has anyone really invented something that actually works? And so I basically put my mind to it. And after a very long product development and research and so forth really thing, it came out. And Sydney is actually the only brand in the world that offers high heel insoles so exclusively just for high heels, that also has an exquisite design.</p><p>So they&#8217;re beautiful. So I said, okay, now they work well, better than any product out there. And why not making beautiful you said, of wearing ugly products, orthopedic looking products, things that are so embarrassing. Nobody wants to be seen with them. So I made them beautiful. So now you have comfort and style in one which. Which is very interesting.</p>								</div>
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					<h4 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">Brett:</h4>				</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s very cool. What was the first brand for you? It was a pretty thing. Your beauty back.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Pretty thing was pretty thing and Beauty by pretty thing. It also again, it&#8217;s actually my passion for beauty and it&#8217;s kind of like the message of, you know, you have to be taking care of your inside to be healthy and then your skin is going to shine and then you&#8217;re going to be really beautiful in the natural way, in the healthy way, right?</p><p>It is just following my own. So I was looking for products that are very natural and have as little, you know, chemicals as possible. I know everything is chemical, but I&#8217;m trying to say like as little as possible. Like for example, they&#8217;re fragrance free, most of them, which is very, very for me. I like it because, you know, if you wear perfume, then the perfume is competing with a cream perfume and it&#8217;s a mess.</p><p>And some people are actually allergic to the fragrances and or they don&#8217;t like how it smell, you know, some creams. So these are fragrance free. They&#8217;re completely natural. And so it&#8217;s it&#8217;s really, really I think, you know, it&#8217;s something also that is a trend nowadays. But I think more and more people are starting to realize, okay, we want things without, you know, you know, for example, animal cruelty free for vegans or people that don&#8217;t want to have all these additives that they are put in these products.</p><p>And they&#8217;re actually not good for your skin because your skin takes everything in. And so because I&#8217;ve always used completely natural products, I thought, Well, why not? That&#8217;s how it came about.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s great. And that&#8217;s I think that&#8217;s starting to we&#8217;re starting to see that more in the US. My understanding is Europe has always had stricter standards in terms of ingredients. And and here in the U.S., we just let kind of companies do everything. But as you said, your skin takes in everything and ends up in your bloodstream next, right?</p><p>And that&#8217;s not.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s right. I mean, natural products.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Exactly. And I oh, I also believe that the more natural you go on, the healthier you are. Like, for example, mom also offering health supplements like things that are very important for your skin and your beauty, like collagen, for example, or, you know, all kinds of things that are actually enhancing your your health from within. And so when you are more beautiful, you&#8217;re radiant.</p><p>You know, you you don&#8217;t need to wear like makeup, for example, unless you really want to, of course. But the point is that if you have a beautiful skin, you know why? Why really are you put chemical stuff on your skin that&#8217;s going to make you faster, in fact. So, I mean, it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a long term vision of being healthy within the thought and beauty from within concept.</p><p>So I think it&#8217;s it&#8217;s pretty cool.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s right. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. Playing the long game, right. In terms of. Yes.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Right. Yours to follow. Tell us about your end customers. Irene, is it similar demographic? Are people buying your heel products in addition to. So is it the same type of consumer who might buy from Pretty Thing in Beauty by Pretty thing?</p>								</div>
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									<p>I think there is a big overlap. However, I would say at the beauty one, you know, it&#8217;s people that are going to love the all natural philosophy, but they&#8217;re also going to love the fact that you have the products that are animal cruelty free, for example. So for people that are very well aware of this issue as I am, they would love it and maybe they don&#8217;t wear high heels.</p><p>So I think the audience is actually there has an overlap from from fashion, but then also people that are not necessarily going to wear fashion or at all, for example, even older people that just love the care of their skin in a natural way because maybe they also have allergies or intolerances and then don&#8217;t necessarily wear high heels.</p><p>But I would say in the middle you would have people that low fashion, high heels and they love also beauty products that are all natural. So there is an overlap. And in terms of the pretty thing for the high heels and the insoles, by the way, I&#8217;m starting as well to launch a high shoe line limited edition that is very luxurious.</p><p>So you&#8217;re going to be able to buy the insoles and the high heels by separate or not in a combo. So like they&#8217;re going to fit in exactly with the shoe. You can take them in and out or makes it more comfortable. But the shoes are absolutely gorgeous. I am designing them and they are made in Spain. So you have craftsmanship made by hand, genuine leather satins, you know, the whole nine yards.</p><p>And my idea is actually to launch a very limited edition of high heels for the ladies that we love the high heels, but for example, we&#8217;re not necessarily going to spend 1000, $2,500 in the most expensive heels. So you would have, for example, 300, 350. You&#8217;re paying for a very unique shoe that is going to stand out anywhere you go.</p><p>Is going to be really exquisite. And you&#8217;re not paying you&#8217;re not hurting in your pocket big time, like with Jimmy Jaws or the big luxury grand brand or the big luxury brands that are so incredibly expensive and maybe maybe you save up and you have one pair. Well, maybe you have three or four pairs of pretty thing it and they&#8217;re fabulous.</p><p>I have I have a sample right here. Yeah Let&#8217;s see. The first is length and it&#8217;s I don&#8217;t know how well you&#8217;re going to be seeing it, but this is I applaud you, too. I mean, this is Prince Gorgeous, like all the way satin, genuine leathers. You can see the golden. This is all south and this is all hand-stitched.</p><p>So, I mean, this is going to be a showstopper at any event, any night outing or even day event. I plan to have I&#8217;m going to be uploading the pictures to the website really thing a dot com. And then you&#8217;re going to be able to see the high heels and the different insoles of all colors and beautiful designs that are literally laundry to the foot.</p><p>So they make it more comfortable and visibly gorgeous. So it&#8217;s all beauty.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that is excellent. So with that, Irene, let&#8217;s get into the influencer side of things. Who are you looking for to partner with or both? Pretty thing. Hair and Beauty by Pretty thing. Let&#8217;s talk about the opportunity, the collab, the type of influencers that you&#8217;re looking for.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes, all four pretty thing. I am looking for ladies that are very fashion. They love fashion. They are classy, very classy, They&#8217;re elegant, They love the details, the style. They take good care of themselves, their their appearance. So they love the glamor and they&#8217;re catering to the client. That is going to be a lady that loves fashion, to dress well.</p><p>She&#8217;s going to spend it in nice shoes and the insoles to go with them, to be able to walk with the shoes, because some people are having their shoes and then they&#8217;re like, Oh, I cannot even work in 20 minutes. Get the sole uncomfortable. Well, no, no more. Right now, you can wear them longer times and more comfortable.</p><p>So it&#8217;s going to be their fashion stars, the ladies who love them, the, you know, the stylish designs, very glamorous and very elegant, both day and night. That&#8217;s going to be the audience and the influencer is going to reflect that. So it&#8217;s going to be luxury luxe, luxury lifestyle. While I would say the age, any lady that loves to wear high heels is fine with it.</p><p>I mean, I&#8217;m not going to limit the age. I mean, maybe a lady that is 60 is going to love her high heels as well. And so I would say somebody that has that type of audience that loves the designer bags, the designer shoes, the designer dresses, and also somebody that loves fashion and doesn&#8217;t necessarily want to spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars.</p><p>So that&#8217;s going to be the type of influencer with her type of audience. The markets that I&#8217;m looking at, one of the markets, obviously the U.S. is a fantastic market with some of the big cities that have a lot of fashion. New York, Miami, you know, but also I would like to find the influencers that are having followers in the Middle East, places like Dubai is like Abu Dhabi, a lot of fashion there, a lot of people spending a lot of money to look good and dress up.</p><p>So those would be very interesting. So if I could find influencers that are catering to those areas, that&#8217;s fantastic. The call up has commission. It has commission, a sort of commission for the influencers, depending on the followers. I&#8217;m offering the gift samples, right. So depending on the, on the, on the following and I&#8217;m offering a code of discount or some of the products for their followers.</p><p>So then they can use the code and their followers if they buy. I know they came from the influencer and they get a discount. That&#8217;s for both brands or the beauty one. As I said, there is an overlap and then there&#8217;s a lot of people that are doing lifestyle, nature, health, you know, a lot of influencers that are not necessarily glam or fashion oriented, but are into the natural beauty lines and love to present those.</p><p>So I would say that I think the base for the influencer, for the beauty might be a bit wider, might be a bit wider.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, we will get links to both of the collabs underneath the show notes here. Irene Sorry, influencers can go ahead and apply looks. It sounds like great opportunities Commission for both products for Pretty Thing and Beauty by Pretty Thing and then essential for product as well if at all. Fit. So these are all great opportunities. Thanks for coming on and sharing about your brands Irene.</p><p>And before we let you go, how can our influencers and anyone listening or watching this podcast, how can they follow and find beauty by Pretty thing, even Pretty thing on social media and on the broader Internet?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Excellent. Irene Schneider, founder of Pretty Thing and Beauty by Pretty Thing. Irene, thanks so much for joining us today.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #45 &#8211; Financial Toxicity and Cancer Treatment &#124; Dan Hubbard &#8211; 4Amanda</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Dan Hubbard, the visionary founder of 4Amanda, as our esteemed guest. Meet Dan Hubbard: The Mind Behind 4Amanda Dan Hubbard, the innovative mind [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Dan Hubbard. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled 4Amanda&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Our very first trip to the hospital. We stayed in a Hilton hotel and we found six families sleeping in their cars. What we do each month is we spend about 63% of our programing towards rent for cancer patients. About 12% of our programing goes to nutrition. What we know for a fact is that good nutrition, good food costs a little bit more, but it&#8217;s critical to a patient undergoing care.</p><p>The financial component is something that I think everybody can understand. Imagine not being able to add. He&#8217;s got cancer.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our influencer podcast, where we connect influencers and creators with not only up and coming brands but up and coming charities and great causes. And that&#8217;s what we have today with Dan Hubbard. He&#8217;s the director of For Amanda. It&#8217;s a charity focused on getting direct financial support to cancer patients. I mean, Dan, unfortunately has experience with not from the financial side, but on the on the cancer treatment side and kind of saw firsthand how difficult it was for patients to get proper care.</p><p>So for a man is an awesome charity that really helps people who are going through the cancer treatment process get money, and then how to get money directly to the people that need it. So really a great cause and also an opportunity for our influencers and creators to share and to help this great cause. And we&#8217;ll bring on Dan here.</p><p>So Dan, thanks so much for joining us today in Kenya. Hopefully, hopefully I did a decent enough job of the intro here, but can you tell us a little bit more about the mission and objectives of for Amanda?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Sure. So Amanda and I were quite fortunate when she received her cancer diagnosis. We had great insurance. We had good employment and we had a good support structure from friends, family and friends. But what we learned, starting from our very first trip for her having a report installed and then starting her infusion was a lot of cancer patients are not fortunate.</p><p>Our very first trip to the hospital, we stayed in a Hilton hotel and we found, I think it was six families sleeping in their cars and the hotel was allowing them to do that. But the choice was pay for the fuel and food and these sort of things to get to the destination or stay in a hotel. They couldn&#8217;t do both.</p><p>We heard horrific stories of bankruptcies and, you know, not being able to afford rent because of the high cost that comes along with the cancer diagnosis and the health care industry. It&#8217;s called financial toxicity, cancer care, essentially. You know, Amanda received her treatment at Duke and two researchers at Duke about 15 years ago coined that phrase financial toxicity.</p><p>So what we do each month is we spend about 63% of our programing towards rent for cancer patients, and that often includes utilities as well. About 12% of our programing goes to nutrition. What we know for a fact is that good nutrition, good food costs a little bit more, but it&#8217;s critical to a patient undergoing care. And then we have programing that that also pays for phone bills, maybe the patient needs a very comfortable mattress because of the chemotherapy deter it in their body.</p><p>So it&#8217;s you know, we recover the plant in the unplanned and we&#8217;ve been doing it since. Well, officially we did We started while Amanda was still alive in January of 2022. We got our IRS determination in December of 2022, and we&#8217;ve been doing it ever since.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s awesome. In terms of I mean, the support that you provide, what are the costs? I guess just to give me an idea of the ballpark, I mean, are we talking I can only imagine. But I mean, there&#8217;s got to be like five figure kind of costs. So you&#8217;re looking at starting it in in the tens of thousands of dollars with the diagnosis that these families have to deal with and handle, I guess, on their own if they don&#8217;t have the insurance coverage, as you mentioned.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes. So that&#8217;s a really important question. And it really comes down to the type of cancer someone has, but also their genetics. So, Amanda, you know, her genetic makeup and the makeup of the cancer qualified her to take an immunotherapy called Penetrant about. And some insurance companies don&#8217;t pay for a genetic testing or B, the immunotherapies. So on kind of the low end such as payment in that you&#8217;re looking at I can buy them actually in bulk for patients at about $700 each individual patient that would have to buy one every other week would pay about 1200.</p><p>Well, if you&#8217;re going to be taking between six and nine weeks of means so that that&#8217;s very costly.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So you&#8217;re actually buying them in bulk on your end and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That&#8217;s cool. That&#8217;s cool.</p>								</div>
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									<p>But, you know, this insurance doesn&#8217;t cover the nutrition shakes, right? So it&#8217;s a case of boost, you know, 30, 40 bucks. And, you know, if if that&#8217;s one of your main intake pathways for protein, then, you know, your, your nutritionist and your colleges are going to want you to have at least three a day. Right. And a lot of families look at that and they think, well, you know, that&#8217;s that&#8217;s taking food out of the mouths of my children.</p><p>So we step in and every month we send out a.</p>								</div>
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									<p>50 or so cases of boost from Amazon. But, you know, patients are driving on average 200 miles round trip to get to treatment.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Oh, it&#8217;s because they got to find the specific.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. If you need to get to a place of care. Yep. So you know this involves wear and tear on their vehicle gasoline. Obviously. I cannot tell you how many windshield we&#8217;ve repaired. So, you know, you got all these costs and they add up. And one of the really unfortunate things is, you know, a lot of the patients we serve are not under the poverty level.</p><p>You know, they&#8217;re closer to 50,000 and it&#8217;s difficult for them to qualify for social services. And that the sad thing is they&#8217;re amassing a ton of debt. So, you know, that ratio is really sort of, you know, one of the other things that we we try and focus on it. We&#8217;re doing a lot better job as a lot of patients are traveling with children.</p><p>And that can happen during the school year. It can happen, you know, during the summer I was involved with this. Children do need something to do. So we&#8217;re trying to team up with different organizations, local to different hospital systems and maybe get them to a movie. Right. You know, something like this, give them a little bit of enrichment because emotionally it&#8217;s really hard on them.</p><p>It&#8217;s not so which which starting to to focus more on that as our programing dollars increase.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah that&#8217;s a cool benefit of the dollars coming from you as a you as a human being know how to allocate it and you know that they need the shakes and the kids got it. You know, sentimental to go see a movie, right. Versus having to get the stuff reimbursed as you said. What a nightmare. Right. With the red tape, I guess, is you can you can get around that you can allocated as you see fit versus just that bureaucratic mess that you had to experience.</p><p>How do you connect with the how do you connect with the families down in terms of who needs help? Do they know? Do they how do they find you to apply for help?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. So what we&#8217;ve tried to do a good job at is get close to hospital systems. Sometimes it&#8217;s just, you know, sometimes it&#8217;s as simple as just finding some licensed clinical social workers that are on, you know, some hospital systems website. Just shoot them an email saying, look, we&#8217;re a resource. Do us a favor. If you think that a patient might later suffer from financial toxicity, send them to us now.</p><p>Let them let us get them in the system because it&#8217;s ultimately what happens to frequently as a family will get to us when they have late fees, disconnect fees, these sorts of things and of course recover them. But we&#8217;d rather not we would rather pay for things before they get to bad. There&#8217;s a lot of of just organic based organizations pretty much in every state that we reached out to and said, look, we&#8217;d love to do it for everyone, but, you know, we only serve cancer patients if you come across one and you can tell us, look, they&#8217;ve been either pre-qualified or prescreened, get them to share that data with us and then we don&#8217;t</p><p>have to spend a lot of time doing the same thing. Hospital systems in particular are really, really good at taking a holistic approach to that evaluation. They don&#8217;t just use the poverty level because the poverty level is not a good barometer for financial toxicity. Like I said, most of the patients we serve, their incomes are up around $50,000.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I got you know, it makes I mean, if you&#8217;re paycheck to paycheck, to paycheck to paycheck or if you don&#8217;t, I mean, maybe that&#8217;s not even fair to say. But if you don&#8217;t have this large pile of cash reserve, which if you&#8217;re you know, if you&#8217;re middle class, you probably don&#8217;t. Right. And then you get hit with these costs and you have to pay the bills.</p><p>Right. So you&#8217;re putting them on. And I would say to my credit cards. Right. And that&#8217;s running up and that&#8217;s where the toxicity comes in, because now you&#8217;ve got this interest running against you and it it can snowball pretty fast. I mean, I know starting a company or two on credit cards is not good, right? You got to get the money back.</p><p>But this is not something where there will be a return from a monetary side on the back end. Right. You&#8217;re not going to there&#8217;s no cash flow that&#8217;s going to pay this off here. These are expenses. And you&#8217;re just right. Keep someone. And.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You know, one of the things that I always ask people to take into consideration is there&#8217;s a lot of clinical evidence and research that indicates that when a cancer patient is in real financial toxicity, even even without bankruptcy, the three times more likely to die. And that&#8217;s just a real simple fact. And the other thing that I ask them to consider is currently cancer is the second leading cause of death in the United States.</p><p>It&#8217;s just behind heart disease and not far behind it. The expectation is, if not this year, by 2025, cancer will be the leading cause of death in the United States. The reason to ask people to take that consideration is one in five people have a personal experience that they can talk about friend, family member, and imagine the pain and struggle that you&#8217;re aware that they went through and now add crushing debt to it.</p><p>And so that&#8217;s that&#8217;s why we do what we do, because ultimately it saves lives.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Tell us a little bit, how can influencers and creators help out here? Obviously, a very important because I think it&#8217;s something that people maybe are not quite I don&#8217;t wanna say not aware of, but I mean in my like everything makes perfect sense. This is, this is not something I think about on a day to day basis, right?</p><p>Everything is I&#8217;m reading our notes before we hop on and we start talking like, yes, of course. It&#8217;s like the most yes, these are very expensive treatments. And if you don&#8217;t have great insurance, there&#8217;s no way to pay it. And it&#8217;s a terrible situation. But I&#8217;ll admit, I didn&#8217;t wake up this morning thinking about it right as I&#8217;m getting ready to hop on with you.</p><p>Right. So awareness strikes me as a way that the influencers and creators can help out just talking about this because it&#8217;s not like just helping kind of connect the dots, right? Like, hey, these there are people out there that are going through this. So my on the right track in terms of what we&#8217;re looking for in terms of influencers and creators to help out.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. So, you know, I have to admit I there&#8217;s so little that I know about the influence of market and vertical. But one thing that I&#8217;ve always found really, really valuable is for an individual that&#8217;s going to be speaking on our behalf to speak to their audience the way they know their audience wants to be spoken to. And, you know, if a if an influencer is a young woman, then what I would share what that influencers look.</p><p>Currently in the United States, women in their twenties and thirties are being diagnosed at mass rates because colorectal cancer and breast cancer, it&#8217;s a significant rise leading away from the pandemic. Yeah, yeah. For an influencer for a part of their persona as a mother with children, I can tell you that 80% of the cancer patients we serve are women with children.</p><p>And if the influencer is a person of color, I can tell you that 71% of the people we serve are people of color. I can share statistics with an influencer that I think they could find a way to utilize, and however they get the message out. You know, cancer is incredibly unforgiving to everybody. The financial component is something that I think everybody can understand, right?</p><p>Everyone gets money, everyone gets debt, and everyone and everyone has that gut feeling when it&#8217;s like, Oh God, I got to pay this huge credit card bill or whatever. It doesn&#8217;t make you feel good, right? Imagine not being able to and you&#8217;ve got cancer, right? And you&#8217;re trying to.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Those are probably two of the top worst things on everyone&#8217;s. I mean, everyone knows cancer sucks and everyone knows that having to pay a credit card, especially when a high credit card is running against you. But the interest rate, that&#8217;s the worst really the worst feeling.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You know, and I think something that I&#8217;m getting a little bit better at is at the end of every day, I always think about if I get eight more $10 donations, I can buy, you know, a immunotherapy injection for one more patient. You know, if I get $70 donation, that&#8217;s a hotel room for a family that&#8217;s traveling to treatment.</p><p>$40. You know, that&#8217;s a digital gas card. I can sense. And I went for the round trip, you know, we can send digital McDonald&#8217;s cards, right, so that children can go and get a happy Meal that are traveling with their parents. So these are the things that I think about. And what I&#8217;m trying to do a little bit better job at is sharing that on social media.</p><p>And certainly I would like influencers to share that as well. I think that it&#8217;s easy for me to put statistics on my website that says this is who we&#8217;re serving in a cell, we&#8217;re serving them. But I think something just really small like, Hey, 70 bucks allows a family to not sleep in the car, right? So these are some of the things that I would like to think about.</p><p>But and in my collab or in our collab, I specified to the influencer, I don&#8217;t want to tell you how to get this message out. It needs to come from your heart and be communicated to your audience the way you think.</p>								</div>
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									<p>It&#8217;s into our influencer and creator, viewers and watchers and listeners. We&#8217;ll get the link to your collab there. Dan and the Foreman collab. We&#8217;re going to be shown out so everyone can click and view the collab and apply it. I think that&#8217;s a great way of looking at it from the creative standpoint is that&#8217;s what we want is for the creators to kind of take this and put it into their own word and related to their own lives and, and to communicate it to their followers.</p><p>Right? That&#8217;s the kind of the beauty of the influencer, micro influencer world is that you&#8217;ve got there&#8217;s, you know, people attached to their, you know, you call followers for a reason because they&#8217;re connected with these people and we want them to help spread the word. So to our influencer and creators out there, we&#8217;ll get the link to the forum and a collab.</p><p>And then Dan Larson for me, can you give us look into the future plans and goals for the charity in the years ahead?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Sure. So, you know, one of the things that tends to happen to families and then of course to single mothers is they lose income because they can&#8217;t work. So what we are trying is put together a gig site so that these patients, while they&#8217;re traveling or while they&#8217;re not feeling very well from the effects of chemotherapy, they can work online.</p><p>So we&#8217;re going to develop that platform for three. It&#8217;ll be made available to both the cancer patients that we serve and then cancer patients that are connected with other charities. We&#8217;ve got about a dozen really, really good companies that are going to provide dedicated work to the cancer patients. We&#8217;ve got a really, really good merchant that&#8217;s going to charge us $0.00 so that the cancer patient earns $100, $100 just to be deposited into an account.</p><p>So that way they&#8217;re not losing small percentages. So this is something that I&#8217;m really excited about. We have a grant that covers that. I would also I would also like to say that I&#8217;ll have more time to get to hospital systems because I want to meet with oncology department heads and the, you know, clinical social worker heads and say this who we are, this what we do.</p><p>Don&#8217;t feel like you can&#8217;t send people to us. We&#8217;ll help anyone that meets the criteria for help. And I think that if I am able to spend that time doing that for the rest of the year, it will save lives, I think. But but also will avoid some of those fees that I spoke about earlier. So I think these are two goals that, you know, looking to accomplish this fiscal year.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s awesome. That is a great I mean, end to end now on. And hats off to you. I don&#8217;t know how you got a merchant to agree to 0%. I mean, that was not is it that that&#8217;s really fantastic like you said $100 going straight to the worker who needs the money. So yeah, thanks for sharing, Dan, as always, you keep us posted.</p><p>Let me know how we can we can help out on our front if and I know another collab to help that or just kind of spread the word about the platform when it&#8217;s live, you know? So thanks for keeping us posted and involved in the for Amanda efforts and again we&#8217;ll get the link to the collab. Your cilantro influencer and creator friends can apply here as we have Dan Hubbard, again the director of for Amanda and really about the best guys you&#8217;ll ever hear of.</p><p>So happy to share this and thanks so much Dan, for coming on our platform. It&#8217;s been a really, really meaningful conversation to have with you. Really appreciate it, Brett.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Matt Hill. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled Matthew Hill Consulting&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I thought about in the past of like maybe creating a book or self-help type of book as well. But I started kind of like teasing apart the different components that I would want to add to this. To increase your potential is a very comprehensive program, and it&#8217;s not a one size fits all, which makes it a little bit different than any other type of programs to come looking at various constructs such as like emotions, self-image, self-esteem, motivation, empowerment, self regulation.</p><p>This is all research based data that&#8217;s drives this program. But I also did it in a way that&#8217;s comprehensive. So I get right to the point.</p>								</div>
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					<h4 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">Brett:</h4>				</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our excellent our podcast, or we connect influencers and creators with up and coming brands and products. And today we have a unique opportunity here. We&#8217;re going to talk about with the founder of Heal Behavioral Health. We have Dr. Matt Hill himself, who&#8217;s going to come on and talk to us about his Increase Your Potential program, which includes affiliate commission, opportunities for influencers and creators.</p><p>So a nice way to share something that can help your followers and also help you make a little bit of money as well. So, Dr. Matt, welcome. And can you tell us a little bit about yourselves and provide maybe your background and the overview of what brought you to lead you and inspire you to create the increase your potential program?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Sure. Absolutely. Yes. My name is Dr. Matt Hill. I&#8217;m a licensed mental health counselor in the state of Florida. My background is I&#8217;ve been working in private practice for approximately 15 years now. And basically what has led me to this course is I thought about in the past of like maybe creating a book, a self-help type of book as well.</p><p>But I started kind of like teasing apart the different components that I would want to add to this. And then I came up with it. Increase your potential. And to increase your potential is a very comprehensive program and it&#8217;s not a one size fits all, which makes it a little bit different than any other type of programs too.</p><p>So basically I&#8217;m looking at various various constructs such as like emotions, self-image, self esteem, motivation, empowerment, self regulation, and then ultimately at the end is creating goals and objectives. But all the other components that I&#8217;m talk about in terms of self regulation, self-image, emotions, self esteem that give the the participant a lot of insight into their own behaviors.</p><p>And so this these behaviors are then going to guide the goals and objectives that will be created.</p>								</div>
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					<h4 class="elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default">Brett:</h4>				</div>
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									<p>Nursing. So you mentioned designing the program with participants in mind. So can you elaborate a bit on the thought process behind how you structured the program to be engaging and effective?</p>								</div>
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									<p>I thought in my I thought in my own life I was looking at different things that I would like to see in terms of goals and objectives in my own life. And I was thinking to myself, What if I was a participant in this program? What would I like to see? And then also too, is I find that a lot of times self-help books and other self-help types of things, they&#8217;re not research based, they&#8217;re anecdotal data from that other people have.</p><p>And so like if you go into said bookstore, you&#8217;ll see all kinds of self-help books. But these are opinions that people have. These aren&#8217;t really driven by data. So a lot of this informal action that I provide in there, this is all research based data. That&#8217;s true. This drives this program. But I also did it in a way that&#8217;s comprehensive.</p><p>So I get right to the point. Then. That&#8217;s that&#8217;s also why I didn&#8217;t want to really focus on having a book because I feel like we live in such a high paced, light, you know, world that we don&#8217;t have a lot of time. So we need to get right to the point with things. So that&#8217;s why I designed it in a way that is it&#8217;s informational, but it also allows people to kind of work at a pace that&#8217;s not going to be so overwhelming for them either.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s nice. More quite kidding. I mean, the last thing we need in the world is another self-help. But of course, you walk in like you said, you walk into the bookstores and you&#8217;re not to many of them anymore, but you walk in and they&#8217;re kind of wall to wall. And I guess I never thought of it that way.</p><p>That&#8217;s interesting that you put it that where I mean, they really are opinion pieces and not that they are necessarily incorrect, but like you said, it&#8217;s one person&#8217;s opinion and maybe it worked for that one person. And now we&#8217;ve got a book, but not a one size fits all. And it&#8217;s not it&#8217;s not research. I mean, it&#8217;s tough to get excited about something in 2024 is not research based writers, even if there&#8217;s not a study behind it.</p><p>If there&#8217;s not some sort of evidence, then kind of what&#8217;s the point? Right? It&#8217;s just another opinion piece. So that&#8217;s a big advantage, it sounds like, to have the research stuff, but then also to be able to get to the point because that&#8217;s what you want. We don&#8217;t want to read through the full study, Right. We want the abstract.</p><p>We want what&#8217;s the what&#8217;s the point of this? So on the program there, Matt, what&#8217;s the price of the program and how does that work in terms of accessing it?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Once someone signs up for the program, they would they will have complete access to it all the time. So the thing about it is if you&#8217;re changing goals and objectives in your life, you&#8217;ll have it over the course of your lifetime, so you can always revisit it and go back to it. The price point of it is 99, 99.</p><p>I was looking at different price points in terms of what I think would be reasonable, and I was like, okay, I want this to be able to be acceptable to most people. So I figure that at this price point it would be reasonable for courses because I looked into other courses too as well. And some of these courses that you see are like $500 even up to $1,000 in terms of the self-help courses.</p><p>And I wanted to make this reasonable as I possibly could for the for the participant.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s a nice price point because that&#8217;s something you can buy without having to think too hard or feel too hard about it. And then having access for your entire life is great. So like you said, as a resource, you can keep coming back to. And a lot of times these types of resources, they&#8217;re nice references because we use them tactically and kind of get through that hurdle.</p><p>And then a couple of years later, you want to go back to it. So being able to go back to it I think is a nice value as well. Also like the price point from an influencer standpoint, right? Because this is something that influencers can share with their followers and creators can share and feel good about that in terms of not only the information that people are getting but the investment required, It&#8217;s doable.</p><p>So from your standpoint, in terms of the influencers and creators that you&#8217;re looking to work with, what are you looking for in terms of them aligning and their messaging kind of resonating with what you talk about in the increase your potential program?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Any influencer that I work with, I&#8217;ll give access to the program. I&#8217;m actually working with one influencer right now and I provide an access to the program so they can actually take the program so they know what their what they&#8217;re providing. So what I would really want is the influencer themselves to basically almost think of it like, like an opinion piece.</p><p>It&#8217;s like, Hey, listen, I did this program, this is how I helped made this is these were the goals and objectives that I was looking at trying to work on. And this is what I was trying to work through and this is how I use the program to work through.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s very cool. Is now taking the opinion piece to put it on the front end, right? And like really like a case study where, hey, this is exactly right. I went through this and here&#8217;s how it helped me, given where I&#8217;m at. Right. And it&#8217;s different for different people, but we&#8217;re all looking to get right past our next hurdle.</p><p>We&#8217;re all I can improve in a certain area, but that&#8217;s different for each person. So cool to have that and a nice benefit for the influencer to have access to the program. $99 value there, of course, is off the the list price. Of course, they may get a return on their investment. That&#8217;s many, many times over that right.</p><p>If they&#8217;re able to increase their their business alone, not to mention their sort of personal happiness and all those benefits. Do you see a role with the influencers and creators as allies in helping reduce? I don&#8217;t know if stigma is the right word, but you know, some of the misconceptions, so say, around mental health messaging within their own communities, right?</p><p>Because they&#8217;ve got the ear of their followers and that&#8217;s who they are, their followers. Listen to you, right? Is this person. So how do you view the influencers in terms of being a partner for health, behavioral health?</p>								</div>
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									<p>I see them as like like the affiliate aspect of it is I see them as someone that can bridge that gap to their to their viewers and be able to provide this information to their viewers in terms of like the stigma, this is we don&#8217;t I don&#8217;t want to say that this is necessarily something like if someone has anxiety or someone has depression, this is more like think of it as coaching.</p><p>It almost is. This is like a program that is more designed for if we&#8217;re just looking at goals and objectives and find ourselves getting stuck in our lives with different things. This isn&#8217;t a program to diagnose anyone with any sort of mental health or behavioral health condition or anything by any means. This wouldn&#8217;t be like you wouldn&#8217;t say like, okay, had depression, I&#8217;m going to go use this program or I have anxiety, going to go use this program.</p><p>This is just to better your life in terms of your own personal goals and objectives. And like I said, this is a not a one size fits all program. This program is more designed for the individual, but the back information provides us with the insight in the self awareness so we can understand things such as self esteem, motivation, empowerment.</p><p>Like I said, self regulation.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s nice to have that, I guess again in this format, right? Because in the old days, let&#8217;s say I had a personal hurdle, whether it&#8217;s starting my business or growing my business or my personal life or, you know, they all blend together, right? I&#8217;ve hit this business hurdle because I need to get over this thing personally, right?</p><p>And then I go to Barnes and Noble or Borders back in the day, right? And I&#8217;m looking for these self-help books. But again, like we&#8217;re talking about, they&#8217;re all opinion pieces more or less. And I&#8217;m kind of searching a little bit of a needle in the haystack. Right? I&#8217;m looking for that piece of inspiration that can inspire me and get me through that.</p><p>Give me something that I can apply. Versus here you&#8217;ve got all these your research based work here, and I can kind of pick and choose like, okay, this is what I&#8217;m stuck against and these are what studies say work. So it&#8217;s nice to have that as an advantage. On the collab here. We&#8217;re going to get the link Matt in the show notes so that influencers can see this and apply and be able to apply directly through influencers.</p><p>So we&#8217;ll make that nice and convenient. But let me give you a plug here. The Commission is 20% on the program for the increase your Potential program and as Dr. Matt said, also getting access to the program as well. So a really nice advantage there last year for me here. Matt, give us a little tease on the future, what our future plans for Hill behavioral health and the increase your potential program.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I just want to see how far this program can go. I want to basically have this program out and have people using it. And then what I want to do is I see in my in my private practice that a lot of people deal with very various forms of anxiety. And so that&#8217;s going to be the next program that I&#8217;m going to work on.</p><p>And I already have a price point for that as well that I&#8217;m already going to create. That&#8217;s going to be like a $50 for that program, 4999. But needless to say, that&#8217;s my next thing that I&#8217;m going to work on. But right now I really want to focus on increase your potential because this is like this is like the grand program of probably all the programs I&#8217;m having.</p><p>So think of it this as we go in a sequence of we start with something small and move in incremental to that. This is something I just went right out the gate and made. This is like the big program. So this is going to be like the flagship program for health, behavioral health.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That was exactly the word I was going to use there. Sounds like. Yeah, the flagship band sounds like there&#8217;s tons of potential for the increase or potential program, right? I mean, we talk about all the self-help books, the old school bookstores, wall to wall in terms of the self-help books. And again, here&#8217;s a case where we&#8217;ve got something this evidence and research base that we can use.</p><p>So lots of potential. And I like using the influencers and creators as a way to scale and to our influencer and creator watchers and listeners here, get on the collab here for Hill Behavioral Health. This is really interesting program, something that not only will probably help you help all of us in our own lives, but also a great thing for you to share with your followers and then earn commissions just for helping other people, which is kind of the name of the game here.</p><p>Dr. Matt Hill, thanks so much for joining us. Walking us through the Increase Your Potential program and for hosting your collab with us here at Excellence are looking forward to sending some good influencers and creators your way. And I appreciate your time and background here.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes. Thank you so much for your time as well.</p>								</div>
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									<p>All right. Thanks again, Dr. Matt.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #43 &#8211; Scaling Therapy Business &#124; Floss Knight &#8211; UkTherapyGuide</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Floss Knight. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled UkTherapyGuide&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Many years ago, I came into recovery and therapy changed my life. It changed the way I viewed things. It helped me with all the things that I struggled with. 80% of the population do, at some point in their life, struggle from depression, which will unlock the potential in people and get them started on a better track. We have no shortage of therapists because we have a really good reputation, but it&#8217;s about positive experience and spreading that is far wide, you know, strengthening our reach.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our influencer podcast today, where we connect small brands with micro-influencers. We want to highlight the up and coming collab opportunities for our influencer viewers and listeners. And today we&#8217;ve got a unique one. Last night is our CO founder here from UK Therapy Guide. UK Therapy Guide has a mission to ensure a safe, seamless and informed therapeutic journey for all.</p><p>They&#8217;ve got a generous affiliate program here offering a $60 commission that we&#8217;re going to talk about and again, really a unique platform and offering here. So thanks so much for joining us. Can you get us started by sharing your inspiration behind Founding UK Therapy Guide?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, for sure. Firstly, thanks so much for having me. I&#8217;m really, you know, glad I found you guys because it&#8217;s an interesting proposition to ask. So I&#8217;m going to just tell you a little bit about who we were and why. I co-founded UK Therapy Guide so many, many years ago. I came into recovery. That&#8217;s about 29 years now, and I basically came into therapy through the back of that.</p><p>And I benefited. Therapy changed my life. It changed the way I view things. It helped me with all the things that I struggled with. And for me, I wanted to share that experience. So I&#8217;d worked in other other areas, but I did a significant training and it just became the right thing for me to do. So that&#8217;s what underpins our mission.</p><p>You know, we want to be helping as many people as we can, 80% of the population do at some point in their lives struggle from depression, however that manifests. And that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re trying to do, which when unlock the potential in people and get them started on, you know, on a better track.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s great. So did you as you were working as a therapist, was it sort of the inspiration to scale yourself and say, Well, I can help one client at a time? As a practicing therapist, I can create this platform where I can connect many to many.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Sure. Well, that&#8217;s exactly what happened. So I started my journey having a very good experience in therapy. I did, you know, a long and very rigorous training. I then had a practice, one in Chelsea, one in Fulham, and I wanted to scale it because there are quite a lot of people in the space, some of them well-meaning, but they don&#8217;t necessarily have the right level of training to be able to sit with people, to work with people, to hold the space and encourage them to get well because you can get very complex presenting problems.</p><p>So I thought about that. And also therapists are very undervalued. So I wanted to make sure that we were looking after therapists as well. So it was about safety for all and making sure that people had the most positive experience possible.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I hear you from running a platform. That&#8217;s the tricky part, right? You got the both parties and you have to take care of both parties. It&#8217;s also interesting because you kind of need both in your case, you need the therapists, you need the clients on there. In our case, we need the brands and we need the influencers.</p><p>So starting these things, I know from our experience it&#8217;s interesting because you can&#8217;t have just one. We&#8217;ve got to get up to critical mass, you&#8217;ve got to get balls going. What was the trick for you in terms of getting traction? Was it having the therapists come on board and put their profiles up on UK Therapy guide and then you&#8217;re able to get the clients looking potential clients looking on the site?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well, we&#8217;re really lucky because we&#8217;ve been in that zone for a very long, very long time. And because I am a psychic therapist and I understand the, you know, the struggles, right? It&#8217;s really hard to build a business and understand a CEO, understand this, that and the other. So we take all that pressure off the therapists. And at the same time, I understand the credentials.</p><p>So, you know, there&#8217;s a training and there&#8217;s a training and all this is all about the quality of the training. So we do make sure we&#8217;ve done all the checks. I one of the big joys I get is I get to meet the therapists. So I really enjoy that to see how they present and so on. So actually we have no shortage of therapists because we have a really good reputation and now it&#8217;s kind of reaching more people.</p><p>We have helped thousands of people who possibly are still in therapy, I&#8217;m not sure, but it&#8217;s been a a good experience. And behind the website, behind the platform, right. Where people and that&#8217;s where, you know, we all say, you know, you can reach a person, you&#8217;re not going to be stuck in a kind of an an automation ball of hell.</p><p>Right. But pitch up like because people are at the back of therapy, you know, we&#8217;re not just to service. It&#8217;s much more than that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s an interesting juxtaposition with some of the big tech solutions. So are you seeing that as a competition? I would imagine before UK Therapy Guide, it was probably like an old school type of referral model where people would find a therapist maybe by referral, maybe they&#8217;re going online, but there aren&#8217;t really sites, review sites geared towards helping them in that solution.</p><p>So I would assume, I guess if we started there, what was life like for potential client before UK Therapy Guide? Was it referrals? Was it searching online through these kind of random sites?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I think it&#8217;s a really interesting point. So we&#8217;re probably way a little bit way behind you guys, right? So so obviously we&#8217;re in the UK and you know, therapy is obviously you&#8217;re in California, I believe, which is like, you know, the the center of it all So over here. So my practice was when you fall and you build a practice by having regular clients who refer other clients and you build a name for yourself.</p><p>Now, obviously with lockdown, there&#8217;s been very much a jump into the space whereby people are looking online, they want reassurance. There are a lot of not necessarily properly trained. A lot of people jump into that space because it&#8217;s a massive market. So they&#8217;re there for the financial reasons rather than perhaps for the benefits of bringing a good quality of therapy.</p><p>So, you know, we&#8217;ve been around that space for for a very long time. But a lot of people with deeper pockets than us are in there. But we very much are established and we just do things differently in terms of of how we operate and how we choose to operate. Everything we do is underpinned by therapeutic values and so all of those checks.</p><p>So that&#8217;s a headache for a client. You go online, right, and you&#8217;re going to have the top ranking sites, right? And you might hit, you know, one or two of those, but you&#8217;re not entirely reassured or assured that you&#8217;re going to get a call. And by the way, what I&#8217;m not saying is some of those platforms do a great job.</p><p>But with us, you can rest assured that we have done the checks and you are going to be placed with somebody. And if they&#8217;re not the right therapist, we&#8217;ll find another therapist. But on matching. So we do a thing where you can have a call with one of the team. We don&#8217;t take a clinical history because we&#8217;re not they&#8217;re not all clinicians, but we&#8217;ll place you.</p><p>We send videos as another thing. People kind of came back to us and said, It&#8217;s great to see a photo, but what you want is you want to see how somebody presents. And it is all about that. I mean, that feeds also into the influencers that we want to work with. What people do present in a way that matches kind of our brand and our message.</p><p>They want to hear the affects, right? How how people look, the voice, where the pitch lines. And that&#8217;s really reassuring for people. So so those things. But it&#8217;s an overwhelming thing. You know, I&#8217;ve got a problem. I don&#8217;t know where to go. I could go here, I could go there. And it&#8217;s confusing. So we try to demystify things and I think we do a pretty good job, actually.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s a great service. Personally, verifying the therapists who are on the site, I would imagine that that&#8217;s unique to you. And even if you you&#8217;re seeing like a, you know, a funded type of operation from down the street here in Silicon Valley. I know how they operate. They always try to boil the ocean. Right. So there if you pitch to venture capitalists, you say, hey, we&#8217;re going to be big in the UK therapy market.</p><p>They&#8217;ll stare at you and they&#8217;ll say, okay, and what else can you do? So my inclination is that they are probably trying to do a bunch of different things. And the notion of having humans actually verify therapists over the phone or over Zoom is going to be a nonstarter with any type of funding. So that&#8217;d be my guess.</p><p>You could correct me or here as you see it, since you&#8217;re it&#8217;s your company, but that&#8217;s my feeling. Is that true that you kind of see these maybe bigger tech companies, but they&#8217;re looking at the space and they&#8217;re trying to build a platform. But again, it&#8217;s not just the UK therapy, but it&#8217;s for a bunch of different services.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I mean, they are. So some of the big boys are American, American and you have state restrictions and licenses. We don&#8217;t have that here. So they have parachuted into the UK and therefore they don&#8217;t understand. So you might be in the UK and you might have an American therapist. And although we are brothers and sisters in that way, there are cultural differences and cultural different understandings mean, you know, and often people want to work with the therapist that is from there, you know, from where they were born or that their main understanding in their upbringing.</p><p>So so things like that. And without a doubt, it&#8217;s all about scale. I mean, I know, you know, those are the significant challenges that you have when you&#8217;re a small business. You do want to scale, but it&#8217;s the way in which you scale. And, you know, I think that&#8217;s really important that you keep your your ethos. They also don&#8217;t pay so well, so they don&#8217;t pay therapists.</p><p>I would I would see an equitable value for their skill set. So paying somebody 30, $35 an hour is, I feel somewhat exploitative, you know, And in the UK, obviously. So what we try to do or not, what we try to do, what we do do is we, we let them set the market price and we we do our very best in order to bring customers and a good level of service.</p><p>So we&#8217;re not we what we do, of course, you know, we have ambitions to scale, but we want to keep all of all our compass very much trained on, you know, quality that&#8217;s very important to us. And trusted Trust is what underpins therapy. You, you know, you need to be able to trust your therapist and all our values are based on that.</p><p>You need to be able to trust who your, you know, who you&#8217;re going to spend, you know, have a deep relationship with.</p>								</div>
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									<p>On the scaling side. Can you tell us a bit about your affiliate program FLOSS in terms of when you launched it and how it works?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Sure. Sure. Just can have a little little sip. Sure.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Yeah. No, I&#8217;m always interested to hear opportunities from our for our influencers in terms of I mean, promoting UK therapy guide, I mean, great service that you provide and opportunities with the affiliate program, especially with people who are involved in the therapy world. Sounds pretty exciting.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. So we have, you know, a range a lot of, you know, our clients are young, we&#8217;re looking to attract and spread the message and we want to do it in a fun way. So we&#8217;re creative. You know, I think people that kind of dance dogs, whatever, anybody that, you know, matches our core values and they&#8217;re putting out fantastic content.</p><p>We&#8217;d love to kind of embrace that opportunity, work with them, grow with them, and move to, you know, a position where we&#8217;re collaborating long term and everybody&#8217;s best benefiting from it because there&#8217;s not thing right? And I&#8217;m not knocking it, but a pair of shoes is a pair of shoes, right? And a perfume is a pair. But, you know, is it is it is, it is a perfume and so on.</p><p>But this is about actually improving. So you&#8217;re somebody whose life significantly and it&#8217;s in a meaningful way. And so that is our objective. We want to do it with flair. We want to do it, you know, in a fun way. And different influencers will present different, you know, as I said, they might have pets, right? You know, I&#8217;ve got my very, very own dog snoring on the sofa over there.</p><p>So we love pets, you know, In fact, all of our our team, you know, we&#8217;ve all got pets. So if that&#8217;s your modality for communicating. So my therapy is always really, really creative. So I will use whatever it takes. So somebody, you know, we might have a pet, somebody might be autistic, you know, whatever it is, we might do photo collages.</p><p>So I&#8217;m a real believer that reaching people through the mediums, that&#8217;s important to them and other people, obviously their followers is a great way to interact. And at the same time, you know, everybody benefits from it and we&#8217;re bringing something good to the world.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s great. And I get my four year old dog behind the laptop here and business nearly as well. And then also on the affiliate program, then we&#8217;re talking about a commission based opportunity. Is that right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. So so we have a really simple thing. We&#8217;ve got a link. So somebody joins, they sign up through it, they give us their payment details. Also, anybody that uses the link to make booking, it is logged. We pay out when, when, when the first session has taken place. We also because we think it&#8217;s really important for the influencer to have an incentive for their followers.</p><p>So it&#8217;s giving and giving and that super, super important 20% discount on the first session. I mean, it&#8217;s really clearly laid out. And what we also like to do, you know, we share our assets. If people have got questions and have got ideas, you know, bring it on, because we&#8217;re super excited to be working with new people, people of all ages from from everywhere.</p><p>I mean, one thing I would say is we generally do not operate in the U.S. at most save for the reasons I gave. But we&#8217;re working with some influences who we&#8217;ve been introduced to by you guys that are in the US, but they have big followings in other countries. So isn&#8217;t isn&#8217;t exclusively so. So I&#8217;m in the UK, in London, but we have lots of clients actually around the world so you know, and they&#8217;ll come to us because they want UK therapy, because they understand the ratification of that qualification session.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That&#8217;s great and we will get the link to your collab here so that our influencers watching, listening, I guess more watching on the show notes here to click to apply and you&#8217;ll see those come in through influencers. So we&#8217;ll get all that up and make it easy for people. Last one here, for me, for us. Looking ahead then, where do you see UK Therapy Guide heading in the future?</p><p>And generally speaking, just what&#8217;s next for the platform you and your great service?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well, you know, I&#8217;ve been doing this for a very, very long time. And as I said, you know, my big drive and where I thrive, I everybody that works with us is to spread the message, to get people that are struggling, feeling that there isn&#8217;t necessarily a way out or in a relationship to understand themselves better and find that there are better solutions.</p><p>And if you&#8217;ve got negative patterns, whatever, or lost that actually you&#8217;ve got all those splinters inside anyway, right? They&#8217;re there and they manifest in different ways. They might come out in your relationship, they might come out at work, they might come. And actually if you process them through verbal communication, through therapy sessions, you can be free of all that.</p><p>So that in essence, is the message. And so it&#8217;s about positive experience and spreading that is far and wide and, you know, strengthening our reach and yeah, growing, growing with the influences that that we will end up working with.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That is great. And we&#8217;re so happy to have your collab posted with us again. We&#8217;ll get the link here in the show now. It&#8217;s great affiliate program Opportunity for Everyone looking for a really great service to promote something that helps people through their therapeutic journey. So last night, co-founder here of UK Therapy Guy thanks so much for joining us today.</p>								</div>
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									<p>My absolute pleasure. Have a lovely day and thanks. Thank you so much for allowing me to and to meet you and your influences.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You as well. Yeah. It was great chatting with you. Thanks again.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #42 &#8211; Is This A Perfect Gift? &#124; Alex Buyanov &#8211; IT Arti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeljko Nemet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2024 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Alex Buyanov, the visionary founder of IT Arti, as our esteemed guest. Meet Alex Buyanov: The Mind Behind IT Arti Alex Buyanov, the [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Alex Buyanov. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled IT Arti&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Basically I&#8217;m doing the e-commerce business over ten years, but mostly we were doing it in Eastern Europe. We came up with the idea that we can make a wooden puzzle and we can make a nap that can help to make any portrait. The problem is on this project because the market does not exist. We started with Google ads, Facebook and Instagram, but it costs too much.</p><p>We need bloggers for sure, so we just need lots of people to see. It takes you about 6 to 8 hours to make a street car portrait and it looks really amazing.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our Afluencer podcast. We&#8217;re all about collabs. We connect small brands up and coming businesses with influencers, creators, micro influencers. Today we have Alex joining us on the line. He&#8217;s the founder of I.T. Our team, which is the world&#8217;s first all inclusive do it yourself kit, creating a portrait and string art style from any photo. As Alex notes, less than 1% of us are creative and have the ability to do this on our own.</p><p>I am in that 99 plus percent with no artistic ability, so I&#8217;m looking forward to talking to Alex. And we also have some great opportunities here for our influencers who are our minded, great commission based.</p><p>Opportunity.</p><p>So Alex, welcome and can you share a little bit about your background and what inspired you to start it?</p><div> </div>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, no hybrid thing here. So basically I&#8217;m, I&#8217;m doing e-commerce business over ten yearsold, but mostly we were doing it in Eastern Europe and I&#8217;m founder of it&#8217;s kind of big project. It&#8217;s cosmetics. So we&#8217;re still in now supplies around Eastern Europe. We&#8217;re doing all our $1 million CMOs. But and it&#8217;s not American marketing, you know, everything is much cheaper on the Eastern Europe.</p><p>So it&#8217;s kind of a big project. And so we also have our offline stores, which are also selling our now supply and are starting to be started. Think about it, probably like three years ago. So I was investing in one project and they were doing crafts from what they were doing, wouldn&#8217;t support and they weren&#8217;t doing very good.</p><p>So they had some problems with sales and we will start looking to okay, what else we can produce results, abilities and we came up with the idea that probably we can make at Basel wouldn&#8217;t Basel and we can make an app that can help to make any or any portrait. So the idea was we&#8217;re making a kit we put like seven different colors of wood and squares and we make in our app that can help to make construction.</p><p>So we didn&#8217;t just download any pictures and and gives you instruction. But there was a problem with those wooden puzzles because they were too expensive. We were using like very expensive kind of roots, like black white. And they really took the kit retail price for kits was extremely high, so you could understand this project. And after a while we just said, Ah, we are still looking into this idea of what we can produce.</p><p>Are. And we came up with the idea that you can do a street portrait. So how does it work? You Again, you just download your picture any photo to our app and it provides your instruction and you just pull the strings by the numbers that did the kids here and it takes about 6 to 8 hours to make a string cast portrait.</p><p>And it&#8217;s it looks really amazing just what people when they see it, they just sort impressed. But we also have like other kids, like painting kit Diamond kit, cross-stitch kit. We&#8217;re going to really zoom them in. Not so much so but was a problem is of this project because market is not does not exist so people don&#8217;t know about this product.</p><p>It&#8217;s not like when you sell it something people know you need to the people that they can do such thing. And it&#8217;s a little bit different from what I was doing before. I was usually doing e-commerce. It&#8217;s a known brand, so, you know, one product. So on here right now, we just started this and people said to us, so much for us market and we just started doing a couple of bites ago.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So that&#8217;s very cool. It&#8217;s good and bad starting something new, right? Because you there&#8217;s no existing search volume, right? So you don&#8217;t go to Google and say, hey, these are the keywords were targeting because I imagine nobody&#8217;s looking for a string market, right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>So you yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>You ranked I imagine high, but there&#8217;s no volume. So you&#8217;re establishing the market. So you&#8217;re the leader in a market that&#8217;s not there yet. Right. So it&#8217;s up to you too. Is that very cool. Just kind of taken us through that process and it sounds like a good type of gift. Am I thinking through this right where if I need a Valentine&#8217;s Day, it just passes.</p><p>Maybe mother&#8217;s I got Mother&#8217;s Day coming up for the wife. That might be a cool type of gift where, you know, keep the kids busy for 6 to 8 hours or more. So that&#8217;s kind of a win win putting this together in terms of the string art. So is that how we&#8217;re we&#8217;re looking at it from literally any picture on my phone, I can grab download and then we&#8217;re recreating it with the string art.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. And the most important, the kids are all included. So you got animals, snails, three and four. You don&#8217;t need to buy anything else. And both are excellent. And there are some projects that make it nearly the same, but you need to send them some picture before and then after that that they&#8217;ll send your customer kit. Our kit is customized, so you customize it by yourself when you when you get this kid and this gives you opportunity to gift it to somebody.</p><p>Because if you want a gift, it is somebody you don&#8217;t know what kind of picture she wants to create. So these are kids you can give it in person and decide by himself what kind of picture he&#8217;ll download to the app. Yeah, so like 80% of sales are probably will do as a gift.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. I gotcha. That&#8217;s very cool. Do you have then all colors of string in there that they&#8217;re able to wear your photo?</p>								</div>
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									<p>No. Right now it&#8217;s sort of the black and white.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Okay. Gotcha. Oh, okay. So you do it from the shades and.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, from shades.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Different shades. Got it. Okay, cool. Yeah, I think that&#8217;s a big advantage versus have an upload it somewhere because these are personal photos. You feel a little weird sometimes just throwing them out there and then waiting for something in the mail. It&#8217;s nice to have that all inclusive on your side.</p><p>So what have you done so far.</p><p>In terms of I mean, is it very interesting marketing challenge in terms of creating the market? Essentially, what have you done here, especially in the US, in terms of reaching and potentially engaging the target audience?</p>								</div>
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									<p>We started these Google ads with Facebook and Instagram, but it costs too much.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I think that&#8217;s the story of.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>For sure. And then probably like you&#8217;re saying, I mean, Google. Well, I mean, Google was a good deal when I started using it like 20 years ago. Now it is not cheap, but also, I would imagine in your case, there&#8217;s no I mean, there are there is a volume on any of the keywords that you need or is that just not is anyone looking for string kits today?</p><p>They&#8217;re not too much, but.</p>								</div>
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									<p>They&#8217;re looking for different type of string, same cars. You can try like gifts or people that are looking for you for gift, but the price is still a little bit too high. So we need bloggers for sure. So we just need lots of people to see it and they don&#8217;t buy it immediately. So if you would just find out about it today, maybe like in a few months you&#8217;ll start to think, okay, I need to.</p><p>If somebody like a birthday gift and I seem like a cool idea and before, like couple of months before. So it was interesting when you find out about the kid, the time when you decide to buy the buy it. I can do it if you&#8217;re a few months.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Mm hmm. Yeah. Makes sense, right? It&#8217;s in your head. It&#8217;s in my head today. Right. And then Mother&#8217;s Day is coming up in a couple of months, right? Maybe a month and a half. Right. So that that kind of makes sense because you keep in your head and then you make the purchase. So if we think about it from a marketing, from an influencer marketing standpoint, then creators, right?</p><p>Perfect people to kind of get this in the hands of as they create the content, then I&#8217;m kind of thinking through it ideally would be maybe like a real where they&#8217;re going through and showing, Hey, here&#8217;s me creating this photo using the string. Our kid, the fair ideal partner standpoint.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Mm hmm. Yeah, it&#8217;s actually a very interesting product for bloggers because most of the people likely to it&#8217;s not on and selected not all of it because of the result. Actually the process that takes about 6 to 8 hours. So you can split it like for a few days. It&#8217;s meditative and you&#8217;re just pulling the strings and you just meditate really slow.</p><p>So and there are you can make like a good or a really nice video for really nice content for your blog. But there is another problem. When you&#8217;re looking for a blogger, you actually can make like a great content, but you need to spend like six, eight, 8 hours to make this drink hard. And not everybody wants to make this like some people.</p><p>Yeah, or yeah, I would like to I would love to do this, but some bloggers said it will take so long to make it right.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, makes sense. You want someone who wants to do this and I see in your collab, which I love to kind of dovetail into here for people who qualify, you&#8217;re sending them a free kit, which is very generous. It&#8217;s $149 value, so it feels like we we want people who want the kit because, yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>I want to.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Do the project. And then, oh, by the way, as you&#8217;re doing the project, then you&#8217;ve got the opportunity to make money because you&#8217;re offering commission as well.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Mm hmm. Yeah. Nielsen Commission. Because if you start to prep or post, they&#8217;ll need to invest like lots of money into real retirement, maybe in a year or so. So that&#8217;s why they are right now, they&#8217;re looking for commission.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that makes sense.</p><p>So what types of influencers and.</p><p>Creators then are you thinking? I mean, it strikes me as a pretty broad range, right? Where we&#8217;re really since we&#8217;ve got all these gifting opportunities. And it&#8217;s I mean, there&#8217;s always gift season, right? Valentine&#8217;s Day earlier in the spring or your Mother&#8217;s Day coming out. We have Father&#8217;s Day coming up. It&#8217;s you take a calendar and see certain days.</p><p>I mean, there&#8217;s always opportunities for these types of gifts. So are there any.</p><p>Specific influencers and creators that we&#8217;re trying to reach here.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Are actually for gifts? We don&#8217;t know yet what specific types of bloggers we need to use. We just trying different bloggers are. There is another part, which is the way, but and lots of bloggers out there like the way. But when you make collaboration with DIY bloggers, that&#8217;s mostly for people who want to buy it for themselves. So and our our main goal is a gift.</p><p>So it&#8217;s not so we can collaborate with DIY bloggers, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s it&#8217;s our main goal. We are looking for bloggers of cool people of which to find something interesting, to find gifts. So you just Google for lifestyle right now. Yeah, that&#8217;s a specific.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That makes a lot of sense. And one thing that we can do, we will get the link to your collab underneath with the podcast. Once we get a public, we&#8217;ll get all your commission stuff set up. I mean, one thing we can potentially do is either cycle it through all the gift season, so we&#8217;re to provide probably a mother&#8217;s Day focus next.</p><p>And then after Mother&#8217;s Day, flip it to Father&#8217;s Day so we can either do that with the same collab and just kind of changing the headline in the intro, or you can potentially create additional collabs and have a running in parallel if there&#8217;s gift overlap season. That&#8217;s a nice way to do it. Or you can say, Hey, Mother&#8217;s Day, you know, special gift string our kid.</p><p>I mean, it&#8217;s a it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s a home run for Mother&#8217;s Day and none of us husbands or dads ever know what you get. So this is kind of a land. Just need to get that out there. And then what? Father&#8217;s Day, Same thing, right? Father&#8217;s Day. Knowing you knows to get dads, because if they need something, they just go buy it themselves or they say they never need.</p><p>Yeah. So those are those are some great opportunities coming up from the.</p><p>Artwork side of things here. Alex Any opportunities to license the artwork for use.</p><p>You know, in terms.</p><p>Of these IDR kits or is they all custom photos today or is there an opportunity.</p><p>For artists and creatives potentially license their, their artwork for use in these kits?</p>								</div>
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									<p>I didn&#8217;t get what you mean.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Are these photos that we&#8217;re doing in terms.</p><p>Of the kits where we&#8217;re going to send the kit and then we&#8217;re going to use one of our photos? Or is that essentially any photo we can pull, any Porter Yeah, any photo at all. So that&#8217;s a nice wide range, right? I don&#8217;t have to have the photo on my phone. Right. My Mother&#8217;s Day gift could be that we&#8217;re creating any photo, whatever the kids want.</p><p>Right? Or kits.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Yeah. It just I can show it to you.</p>								</div>
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									<p>That would be awesome.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So just give me a second. So you&#8217;ll see a preview of of the results if you get this Airstream casket and then you just press the play button and it dedicates to the number and color and you bobble the string.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Nice.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Okay.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Very.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Very cool. That&#8217;s awesome.</p><p>So anyone who wants to buy.</p><p>One right now as a gift, Alex, where can they find you? Online and on social media?</p>								</div>
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									<p>All they can find on our website, also on Amazon.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So to find these gifts are going to go to RTI. Dot I Oh and I&#8217;ve got the website up here.</p><p>These are very cool. I see what you&#8217;re seeing saying now. It&#8217;s in terms of the kind of grayscale these look lifelike in terms of their portraits and we&#8217;re going to flash the preview of of yours truly up here. So appreciate you putting that together.</p><p>Alex also on Instagram at a t, r t, and we&#8217;ll get the.</p><p>Collab posted here as well. So anyone interested in promoting i t r t these are some awesome. Yes. I mean this is a home run. I appreciate you taking care of my Mother&#8217;s Day. Shopping needs ahead of time here, so I&#8217;ll either get it from your website or Amazon. Whatever works best for you guys here. So I appreciate you joining us.</p><p>Alex, and looking forward to hosting your collab with us.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, Yeah. Thank you very much.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Podcast Episode #41 &#8211; Adding CBD To Coffee &#124; Ralph Amato &#8211; Amato Coffees</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re thrilled to present the latest addition to Afluencer&#8217;s content lineup &#8211; our podcast series featuring insightful conversations with influential brand owners. In this inaugural article, we have the privilege of introducing Ralph Amato, the visionary founder of Amato Coffees, as our esteemed guest. Meet Ralph Amato: The Mind Behind Amato Coffees Ralph Amato, the [&#8230;]</p>
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									<p>Gain an insider&#8217;s perspective as we burrow into the transcription of our engaging conversation with Ralph Amato. Discover the strategies, anecdotes, and wisdom that have fueled Amato Coffees&#8217; success, all captured in this in-depth transcription.</p>								</div>
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									<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">All right, and thanks for joining us today for our influencer podcast. Honored to have Shaun Kolich join us of My Spiritual Splendors. We&#8217;re going to get right into it. Shaun&#8217;s got a collab hosted with us here in the Afluencer app, and we&#8217;re going to get into that. But Shaun, first, thank you again for popping on, and I would love to start hearing a little bit about your journey. What led you to actually start and launch My Spiritual Splendors?</span></p>								</div>
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									<p>I&#8217;ve been an investment banker. I&#8217;ve worked with hundreds of different ways. So I&#8217;ve seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. How I came about with a bottle coffees was I had a client and he wanted a thousand milligrams CBD infused coffee. It&#8217;s got to be about eight buds to get the right people involved with a barista that knew how to roast coffee, a gentleman that knew how to take the product to CBD and figure out an infusion best that had no aftertaste.</p><p>You feel highly focused, your creativity goes up, your productivity definitely goes up. And we just want to give people something that will improve their health. The wellness definitely helps people on the anxiety side.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome to our affluence or podcasts, or we connect micro-influencers and creators with cool brands with unique new products. And today we&#8217;re bringing on Ralph Amato, founder of Amato Coffees. He was telling me an interesting origin story of his Coffee CBD infused products as we were hopping on the call and I wanted to set the record button so Ralph and I could kind of banter on the story here.</p><p>So Ralph, welcome. And can you give us a little bit of your background, your full career before you started and you ended up creating a lot of coffees?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve been an investment banker for the last 30 years. I&#8217;ve worked with, you know, hundreds of different entrepreneurs, mostly Ed, moving the companies forward, taking the public. We&#8217;re raising the capital. So I&#8217;ve seen the good, the bad and the ugly. And how I came about with a bottle coffees was I had a client and he was a doctor and he wanted a thousand milligrams CBD infused coffee, which I said, okay, w start that.</p><p>And I have no idea what that&#8217;s going to taste like.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. And what year was that? I&#8217;m just curious when when that was because I know CBD has been.</p>								</div>
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									<p>This is this was three years ago we started.</p>								</div>
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									<p>This. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. So it took.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Me about eight months to get the right people involved with a barista that knew how to roast coffee, a gentleman that knew how to take the the product, the CBD, and figure out an infusion based. And so that was our big goal was no aftertaste that you taste this, that you can&#8217;t tell there&#8217;s any CBD, but you get the effects of CBD.</p><p>So after body buds, we figured it out, We got the infusion process going and then it was important to us to have scalability. So we had to get this approved by the state where we get it manufactured and we wanted to use a a well at sizable baby factory so that we could scale it so that what we wanted to go into supermarkets or big box stores or health food stores, we would have a manufacturer that met that criteria because you&#8217;re not getting it to those places unless you got barcodes, QR codes to AD and the production facility meet certain US standards.</p><p>Okay, So that was important to us so that we could scale this up with the time was right because there&#8217;s companies like Whole Foods that are starting to do cold brew coffee and such. So it&#8217;s starting to become mainstream. And the product that we put together, what you take it within about 50 minutes, you feel highly focused, your creativity goes up, your productivity definitely goes up and at for certain other people, because everybody&#8217;s metabolism is a little different.</p><p>We&#8217;ve noticed that people that have a lot of anxiety or or even on beds for depression paid. This works in conjunction with that. It definitely helps people on the anxiety side.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Does the coffee aspect of it help keep you awake and know from personal experience when they take the CBD tinctures to go to sleep? Probably around when you were a certain amount of coffees, it knocks you out, right? And I made the mistake once I&#8217;ve taken it, taken a tincture during the day, and I thought I was going to crawl up on my couch.</p>								</div>
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									<p>There&#8217;s different formulas. Ours is a broad spectrum, and the combination with the caffeine in the coffee kicks it into high gear. You know, there&#8217;s a lot of people ask me this because a lot of people take goggles, especially at night to go to sleep. But this hasn&#8217;t exactly very different effect. Right? It it definitely gets you up. It gets you going and it keeps you focused that if you take a cup or two is good for 4 to 6 hours.</p>								</div>
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									<p>God, I. So this keeps you going. So this is something you could take morning and maybe.</p>								</div>
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									<p>It&#8217;s best to have it as your first and even second cup at the boarding because it&#8217;ll definitely get you going.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Got you. Something. Is anything unique then, about the blend, the fact I know there&#8217;s all these health benefits research keeps coming out about the benefits of coffee. Right. Have you found that in your experience or anecdotes in terms of having that coffee aspect being almost like a, I don&#8217;t know, say, multiplier, but a positive sort of positive, you know, synergies there with the CBD?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I think that people today, they they need something, you know, to kind of start your day and not just caffeine because caffeine has a tendency to bring you up but that you crash. Okay. So this is more ongoing. And then if you want to, you know, obviously keep it going for the day, you just, you know, 4 hours later or or more, you just take a second cup.</p><p>It&#8217;ll keep it rolling through the day. But it it definitely helps with, you know, you&#8217;re thinking what you&#8217;re doing and it keeps you on your game. It&#8217;s simple English, but we started out with a dark roast supremo, Colombian coffee. We&#8217;re going to be a vegetable if we get to a breakfast blend. What are the other areas that we&#8217;re looking at?</p><p>Is CBD infused honey? And believe it or not, what are the biggest areas is now it&#8217;s the coffee. So we wanted to do it. It&#8217;s the coffee and you would think that wouldn&#8217;t be that big. But that&#8217;s a $60 billion a year area just for it&#8217;s the coffee. I was totally surprised. I haven&#8217;t heard of. It&#8217;s the coffee since like I was a kid.</p><p>Like, good to have it kind of center at the house.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Right? Right. Yeah. Has it has it graduated since back in the day like would would a little Keurig Cup now qualify as instant or is that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well we have the K-Cups. I&#8217;m glad you brought that up. You know we we also have K-Cups. So right now we have a ground coffee. Of course we have a whole bead. We have the K-Cups. So it basically breaks down to about what you purchased the product. The product comes to about $2.50. All right. If you if you subscribe, then literally for the digital less than $20, you&#8217;re getting a second bag.</p><p>It will pay will pay. The delivery costs are that.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Nice for a good way to.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So I mean, you could get literally two bags for under $100 at that it we pay for the shipping and our competition it has products out there that are 500 milligrams and they&#8217;re more than $50 a bag. So I think we&#8217;re highly competitive. We definitely have a higher coffee that we&#8217;re giving people. And, you know, again, the most important part, go after taste at all.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah. Whereas we were talking before any CBD drink I know I&#8217;ve had before, it&#8217;s ranged from bad to Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>It&#8217;s not the greatest athlete below it. Right. So I tried to get up to get there with that. But CBD where, where you&#8217;re not, you get like what&#8217;s that taste. Right. You, you want something that&#8217;s like, oh it&#8217;s like tastes like the regular coffee I drink, you know, high end coffee. So.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Right. Yeah. I had a friend who had a CBD beverage company and it was kind of like a sparkling drink that they had CBD infused into and it was the best I had tasted, which put it at about a four out of ten. And anyway, the company didn&#8217;t work in a shop shutting it down because there were very few repeat orders because they had it, you know, like this is okay, but it&#8217;s not something that you want to keep and you&#8217;d.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Have to put a lot of really good flavorings in there to to be able to pull that off. And that would be a trial and error thing just like ours was trial and error.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it was eight months, you said, of trial and error in terms of finding that flavor profile.</p>								</div>
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									<p>In how to do it. I mean, what&#8217;s what&#8217;s the right time and well, when do you do the infusion process. And we we had to rethink the whole way that K-Cups are day to day because usually K-Cups are are are based on it&#8217;s basically a coffee with a flavor. They get it for buzz part. Right. And you can&#8217;t do that with this.</p><p>You&#8217;re not going to impregnate, you know, thousands of cups. It won&#8217;t work every single blow up. So we figured out an alternative method to be able to do production, and it worked great. So, you know, we get the same about as CBD. It&#8217;s 40 milligrams per cup, which is twice as much as like our competitor. And we just want to give people something that they could take out of that everyday basis that would improve their health, their wellness, and it take care of some of the aches and pains that they&#8217;ve got.</p><p>You know, if they&#8217;ve got an excited issue or they&#8217;ve got suffering from depression, you know, as you probably know, a lot of people there&#8217;s I think the numbers 8.6 billion people or a meds right for depression. It added for example 84 paid and and most people would they&#8217;ve been taking these types of medications for a while. You know the stuff starts to wear off and now they&#8217;re doubling up so halfway through the month they&#8217;re running out of medication and that they&#8217;re by, you know, something that&#8217;s not prescribed to get them through the ED.</p><p>But so if you take this in conjunction with that. All right. So they&#8217;re going to replace their medications, but it&#8217;ll help them a lot so they don&#8217;t have to take as much medication as they normally would take.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, we had a team member who was anxious and she had success with CBD as opposed to traditional meds. She liked it. It kind of calm her down and so, you know, she kind of enjoyed the CBD brands that we had here that we were talking about from a branding standpoint. They&#8217;re Ralphs. You&#8217;ve been through this kind of from the investment banking standpoint, right?</p><p>I&#8217;m sure with your clients there and you&#8217;re saying, Hey, what&#8217;s your competitive advantage? What&#8217;s your differentiator? And you know that you can have a better product, but then you also have to market it and brand it. And that&#8217;s kind of the other part of it, right? How is that journey been for you? And now that you&#8217;re in the trenches, entrepreneur yourself and you&#8217;ve got a thousand milligrams, there&#8217;s 500 and you&#8217;ve got a better taste, but now you get to get the word out.</p><p>So how is that you&#8217;re.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Going to get the word out? You know, it&#8217;s it&#8217;s definitely I&#8217;ve spoken over the last couple of years to probably 100 different companies and know most of them are agencies that, you know, they have a they have their own kind of protocols of what they&#8217;re trying to sell you and such. But I think the best way it was described to me is, is marketing is like baking a cake, right?</p><p>You&#8217;ve got all these different ingredients. And if you put the ingredients together correctly, your cake rises. And if you don&#8217;t, does it? I think the best route for us, though, that Big said is is influencers because they think we we will supply them with it with a bag of our coffee and our coffee. You know what bag retails for 7995 and then you get to the bags for 99, 99, 90 above it again, you know, we pay for the shipping, but we let them just brew the coffee.</p><p>Whoever the influencer is, they could go in there and try the coffee and then they could feel what the reaction is. All right. So they&#8217;ll they&#8217;ll see it then. It&#8217;ll be an honest reaction. All right. I&#8217;ve tried this. It helped me with my anxiety or. Or Oh, my God. Just take baby, like, highly focused. So everybody&#8217;s going to have a different reaction, which is part of of of this, which is everybody&#8217;s metabolism is different.</p><p>So everybody&#8217;s experience will be different. And that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re looking for is they have the influencers give us an honest assessment of what they did, how they made it, and what were the results.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s kind of the best commercial that there is, right, is to have someone going through it. And as you and I were talking before, if we can find influencers who are watching and the health and wellness and fitness and nutrition types industries right where, hey, this is what I&#8217;m doing as part of my day, I&#8217;m starting with a model coffees, Here&#8217;s my experience and here&#8217;s where you can go ahead and you can buy the ground bag or the K-Cups or whatever process you use to start your day with your coffee.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, we found that, you know, if you look at the statistics, about 28% of Americans use K-Cups. Right. And about 20% do a whole bead like what we do when we sell to, let&#8217;s say, cafes and such restaurants. Those they like the whole bit because they like to grind it themselves and do it themselves. But, you know, the majority of its crowd.</p><p>So you&#8217;ve got about 20% of it is folded, about 30% of its K-Cups and the other 50% is grout.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, So interesting. Educate me there on the trends there, Ralph. I&#8217;m a whole being guy. I&#8217;ve got my fancy grinder and now these days we go with the pour over onto the beans and I have a friend is kind of a high end food guy and he thinks I&#8217;m crazy. I used to just go with the coffee maker and then we just have to go with the grounds of other friends who swear by the current machine.</p><p>Right. Just the convenience of it. Where are the trends moving and who&#8217;s driving those trends? I guess with the restaurants. So you&#8217;re going the whole beans, are those percentages static or are they moving in a certain direction here in the coffee industry?</p>								</div>
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									<p>It&#8217;s interesting because most of let&#8217;s say, let&#8217;s take cafes, right? So cafes, you know, they&#8217;re used to selling a lot or a cappuccino or they could get about six bucks for that. With with a CBD product like this, they could charge, you know, they could get upwards of $10 a cup. And we&#8217;ve seen restaurants charge as much as 50 bucks a cup for this stuff.</p><p>So it up at the Las Vegas at Las Vegas is starting to open up lounges now where you could eat, drink and smoke pot. It&#8217;s the same place right?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Everything you need.</p>								</div>
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									<p>So something like this that&#8217;ll keep you up at the end of the night would be a really smart idea.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Welcome. Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>When you start to drive. Oh, right. So these are types of things that are kind of working in our favor. Some of the new laws, especially in Las Vegas, because there a lot of, you know, cannabis shops here and they&#8217;re huge. I read, you know, you&#8217;ve got places like plated 38 or 122,000 square feet. So everyone that I visited there were all at least 5000 square feet, if not bigger.</p><p>And they&#8217;re all sizable and they have a range of products from, you know, cannabis down to CBD. So, you know, you have your kind of pick of the litter of what you&#8217;d like. And I kind of see these different trends and you could definitely see the consolidation in that industry. You know, the big guys are now swallowed up, the little guys, you know, it used to be you go to a shop and you&#8217;re dealing with the odor now, you know, it&#8217;s all corporate.</p><p>You got to get in touch with them, but you&#8217;ve got to sit down with the buyer and let them trade a product that go from there. So it&#8217;s definitely a process.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Interesting. Yeah, we&#8217;ve seen them here in Northern California. We&#8217;ve seen the flip with the official legality of a shall we say. We&#8217;ve had a dispensary a couple of blocks from our house that was very popular for many of our ever since we bought the house. It used to take a doctor&#8217;s note. And then when the laws change, now anyone can go in and you show your I.D. and but the difference that you see is there.</p><p>So business is booming as much as ever there, but you see the different dispensaries popping up. And like you said, I mean, that&#8217;s that&#8217;s a corporate game now, right? Because that&#8217;s capital city. I mean, that&#8217;s your old that&#8217;s your old world capital building.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Definitely got corporate. Yeah. There&#8217;s a lot of consolidation, you know, because it&#8217;s you&#8217;ve got to have buying power to have staying power in it and it&#8217;s not an industry that it expects to enter.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Interesting point you made on the price points because you can almost prices it&#8217;s almost like a an alcoholic beverage, right. A cocktail. It just demands a price premium. If you have it out and you have a CBD infused coffee, it&#8217;s something that you should pay ten or $15. You know.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Our goal is to give them the best CBD. So ours is this is a a broad spectrum. Distill it. All right. So the difference is that there&#8217;s a thing called isolate. Isolate is like a white powder. Okay? And that has one molecule, CBD molecule, but a broad spectrum distillate has 130 cannabinoids. So your body has a CBD, one in your brain, it a cb2 receptor.</p><p>And what this does is 130 cannabinoids go throughout your entire system. So taking this on a daily basis is it is as good a wellness as you could hope for, for having something that&#8217;s good for you and has a lot of preventative properties in it so that you don&#8217;t have the aches and pains that you normally get. You know, again, you&#8217;re on your game, you&#8217;re feeling good about things, you&#8217;re focused, your productivity goes longer for for the day.</p><p>And I take it every day I&#8217;ve been drinking the stuff for a couple of years now. So it works that I could guarantee you. Yeah.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, I believe it. My first experience with CBD was actually with my last our elderly dog. Right? And we tried a lot of things and then we tried CBD and that kind of popped her up at the end of her life and gave her that good quality of life. And ironically, I don&#8217;t think it was quote, quote unquote legal yet here in California.</p><p>Our vet, she wasn&#8217;t allowed to tell me that it was okay, but she kind of nodded and said, Yeah, that&#8217;s a good.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Smile. Yeah, yeah. Anecdotally we see it. I&#8217;m not allowed to tell you, but it works out. So thanks so much, Rob. This has been awesome. Hearing about your journey with the model coffees and the benefits here. How can people find your coffee, buy your coffee, and also apply to partner with you as an influencer?</p>								</div>
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									<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a bottle coffee, scone and I&#8217;m on a fluid service so they could hit me up there and we&#8217;re just looking for the right people that will try the product and give us their honest assessment of of how they feel about it and what it did for them. And I think that&#8217;ll speak volumes too to people that follow the.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Great tomorrow coffees dot com and we&#8217;ll get the link to your collab right below this video here in the show notes our influencer creator friends can apply and we&#8217;ll get you connected up with Ralph. Ralph, thanks so much for joining us today.</p>								</div>
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									<p>Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.</p>								</div>
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